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Welcome to Integrative Lawyers of the World. It's time for a new way of practicing law. A way that honors our interconnectedness and values what's really important, our core values - generosity, integrity, authenticity. If you agree, you are not alone. There is a global integrative law movement that is transformational, impactful, fun. It's time to grow because the world needs us. So, we are interviewing lawyers from around the world who share their experiences as integrative lawyers. One by one and together we can and we are making a positive impact. Join us along with host Kerry Raleigh for thought provoking discussions from some of the lawyers and advocates on the forefront of the Integrative Law Movement. Learn more at https://www.integrativelaw.com -Opinions are those of the interviewees and do not necessarily represent the Integrative Law Movement

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July 3, 20241 hr 2 min

Patrick Andrews, United Kingdom - Integrative Lawyers of the World, S6, Ep.6

In this episode, we talk to Patrick about:The moment traveling in China that shifted his mindset and legal path; the moment that gave rise to the “barefoot lawyer”The harm caused by the Growth Mindset: the pursuit of unlimited growth and its negative impact on everythingAlternatives to the Growth MindsetThe importance of taking time to stop and askng “is this what I really want?” -at individual and systems levelA hybrid between for-profit and non-profit organizational structuresThe power of your mindsetImportance of finding your tribeThe “Both -And” mindsetAn “eye for an eye” belief and actions just creates a world full of blind peopleIsrael and GazaHis new life direction of surrendering into the mystery of silence and guided meditation and how this has shown him that the more you change yourself, the more your outer world changesWhat it meant for him to step out and declare himself as the barefoot lawyerWhat integrative law and being an integrative lawyer mean to himTo support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, Description automatically generated" />𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.comAn audio only recording of this podcast episode is available at https://integrative-lawyers-of-the-world.simplecast.com/episodesA video recording of this podcast episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY Thank you for listening to Integrative Lawyers of the World! A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

May 23, 202457 min

Camilla Andersen, Australia - Integrative Lawyers of the World Series 6, Episode 5

Professor Camilla Andersen is a lawyer and academic. She’s been an academic for over thirty years on 4 different continents. She has a lot of experience in international commercial law, but she has devoted the last decade of her life to change and innovation, and to relational contract theory. She is changing the face of contract law and humanizing law.In this conversation we discussed:Humanizing lawCommunication training for lawyersCo-creating with clients and other professionals --- remembering that lawyers do not know everythingHow legalese can render a contract unenforceableWays to make contracts more understandable Comic Book Contracts and her comic book contract projectExamples of comic book contractsThe many benefits of visual contractsWord of Caution against creating standardized images and icons for visual contractsRelational contract theory, perspective, and practiceHer work with Mission Australia for which comic book contract was created for kids who are sent to therapyWhat being an integrative lawyer means to her: thinking outside the box, listening to clients, accepting that lawyers do not know everything and co-creating with others.Learn more about Professor Camilla Andersen and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement Links to some of the projects discussed in our conversation: https://www.comicbookcontracts.com/our-journeyhttps://lawyersasdesigners.com/https://www.alternativecontracting.biz/ To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems: https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement(supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.comA video recording of this podcast episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY Description automatically generated" /> A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

April 26, 20241 hr 5 min

Neetu Chetty, South Africa - Integrative Lawyers of the World Series 6, Episode 4

In this episode, we talk to Ms. Chetty about her journey as a 𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐫 and her pursuit of 𝐬𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐞. In our conversation, we discuss:• Social Justice – what it means, how to get it, and the difference between equality on paper or on the books and equality in application and life.• The difference between equity and inclusion• Using the law as an agent of change and how she brings empathy - what a traditional law professor referred to as “that hippie business” –into her law school lectures and courses• Technology and AI in the legal profession: facing concerns and fears over AI but not wanting to get left behind• Decolonization in legal education• How integrative law at its core is language of love and a language of healing• How law can be agent of change and her advice to lawyers who want to be changemakers with a positive impact• What Integrative Law and being an integrative lawyer mean to herTo contact Neetu Chetty, email her here: neetuchetty@gmail.comLearn more about the Integrative Law Movement, Neetu Chetty, and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at www.integrativelaw.comTo support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/(Supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please👍🏽 👍🏿 👍 👍🏾👍🏼 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ 𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 onYouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms.Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.com A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

April 10, 20241 hr 10 min

Rajesh Deoli, India - Integrative Lawyers of the World Series 6, Episode 3

In this episode, we talk to Mr. Deoli about his legal journey, his Law and Happiness Office, and the role of lawyers in society. He believes that legal profession is a thread that connects and holds all of society together. In our conversation, we discuss:His legal journey including a moment as a law student when he felt that there was something frustrating with the legal systemHow he overcame his shyness to fulfill his mission of connecting with othersWhen he first realized as a kid that the was part of a marginalized group and how this propelled him to help those are marginalized in the legal systemWhat justice means and how, without equal and full access to the legal system for everyone, there cannot not be justiceHis work with the Law and Happiness OfficeHis mission to restore the positive role and image of lawyers in communities and societyWhat Integrative Law and being an integrative lawyer mean to him Learn more about Rajesh Deoli and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement. To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (Supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.com A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

March 20, 20241 hr 13 min

Dr. Margaret Satya Rose, Trinidad andTobago - Integrative Lawyers of the World, Series 6, Episode 2

In this episode, we talk to Dr. Rose about public procurement and empowering positive change. More specifically, Margaret covers: Why understanding and regulating public procurement is so important and why everyone, especially lawyers, need to be more aware of the public procurement practices and policies at their local level and at the global levelWhat Covid-19 and PPE procurement taught us about public procurement practices and showed us the weaknesses in these practicesWhy public procurement practices and models need assess the purpose of a good in its value calculation of goods and risk assessment Future Law Collaborative and its vision to bring legal futures from around the world together to catalyze systemic change at local and global levelsHow she wants to support lawyers around the world be effective advocates for policy reform and systemic changeHow the 4Ps: Public Private Partnerships with Purpose can create change and have a positive impactHer “what if” question to all legal professionalsWhat being an integrative lawyer means to her Learn more about Dr. Margaret Satya Rose and Future Law Collaborative: https://futurelaw.io/who-we-are/ To listen to conversations with more integrative lawyers from around the world, go to: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, Description automatically generated" />𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐮𝐬𝟓𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.com A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

March 4, 202450 min

der Meer, United States - Integrative Lawyers of the World, Series 6, Episode 1

In this episode, we talk to Ms. van der Meer about legal design thinking and why it’s important for lawyers to develop their empathy and creativity. More specifically, Susanne covers:Visual language for lawyers6 steps of legal design thinking4 things lawyers can do to implement legal design thinking in their practiceHow to develop your empathy and how to use empathy in your legal practiceHow lawyers can develop their creativity and what law firms can do to foster the creative mindset of their lawyersRethinking the lawyer’s deliverables beyond the billable the hourWhat being an integrative lawyer means to herLearn more about Susanne van der Meer and her work at: https://siftvisuals.com/To listen to conversations with more integrative lawyers from around the world, go to: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/(supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, Description automatically generated" />𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.com An audio only recording of this podcast episode is available at https://integrative-lawyers-of-the-world.simplecast.com/episodes A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

October 17, 20231 hr 20 min

Olivia Fürst, Brazil - Integrative Lawyers of the World Series 5, Episode 6

In this conversation, we discuss:Her personal and legal journey and how being part of an international program for high school students in Atlanta, Georgia, USA and how her father’s political imprisonment and torture changed her career path from art to law --- and what led her to think “I need to understand this language of law",The creative side and art of law and how sensitive people were not encouraged in law schools and law firms,How participating as a mediator for the compensation fund changed her life and the lessons she learned from this experience,How she was introduced to collaborative law,How she is help building a collaborative community and collaborative practice in Brazil, andWhat integrative law and what being an integrative lawyer mean to her.Learn more about Olivia Fürst and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement. To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽 👍🏿 👍 👍🏾👍🏼 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ 𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Click here for a video version of this podcast. Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.com A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

October 4, 20231 hr 1 min

Debra Segrott, South Africa - Integrative Lawyers of the World Series 5, Episode 5

In this conversation, we discuss:working with load shedding practices in South Africa and how this affects everyday lifehow gender discrimination pushed her into opening her own firm because, as one person told her at the time, no one would hire a female litigator and questioned “what would happen if the kids got sick” her path from litigation to mediation to collaborative lawBeing an observer at Collaborative Alliance in Minnesota started by Ron Ousky (ILOW S5, Ep.1)Insights and practical suggestions for starting something newher complications from hip surgery and how she found many gifts in this injuryher struggles with, and dream of, building a collaborative community in South Africa Learn more about Debra Segrott and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.com A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

September 18, 202342 min

Carmen Aja Ruiz, Spain - Integrative Lawyers of the World Series 5, Episode 4

In this conversation, we discuss:How she discovered collaborative law early in her legal career,Why collaborative law is aligned with her values and vision for lawyers’ role in society,Conscious Contracts® and how she uses Conscious Contracts® in premarital and marriage contracts,How Collaborative Law and Conscious Contracts® complement each other and fit within the Integrative Law Movement, andWhat being an Integrative Lawyer means to her.Learn more about the Integrative Law Movement at: www.IntegrativeLaw.com To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (Supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, SUBSCRIBE, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ A video recording of this podcast episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulYMusic for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.com A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

September 4, 202342 min

Rajan Chettiar, Singapore- Integrative Lawyers of the World S5, Ep.3

In this episode, we talk to Mr. Chettiar about his legal journey and life philosophy. He sharesWhat it was like leaving one of the most prestigious law firms in Singapore to follow his inner calling,How volunteering with Mother Theresa’s Missionaries of Charity was a pivotal and profound experience in his life,The feeling he had when he first heard about Collaborative Law,The joy he felt after his first collaborative case, andWhat integrative law and being an integrative lawyer means to him.Learn more about Rajan Chettiar and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement. You can connect with Mr. Chettiar on LinkedIn or through his firm's website at: https://www.rajanchettiar.com/To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, comment,⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/A video recording of this podcast episode is available at https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY&si=FXM3RbfK4oE80k09Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: tobby.leach@gmail.com A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  