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Industry Relations

This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.

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Last Episode Date: 2 October 2024

Total Episodes: 100

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2 October 2024
Tales from the Road

After missing a recording last week (due to travel schedules) the boys are back with another jammed pack episode of Industry Relations.  In this week’s episode Rob and Greg discuss recent Blueprint conference in Las Vegas, CMLS 2024 in Seattle and REColorado new subscriber agreement.  And they sprinkle a little CCP talking points just for good measure. Watch us on YouTube!   Pictures of Greg’s sister, Pilar, winning her own award Pictures of Greg presenting at CMLS 2024 HousingWire post on REColorado acquisition Greg’s take on Rob Reffkin’s CMLS 2024 interview   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

59 min
20 September 2024
CCP Musings

On this episode of Industry Relations Rob and Greg discuss, for what seems to be the 17th time, the current rumors about the Clear Cooperation Policy. Rob recently posted a few thoughts on the subject and a few solutions to what seems to have the entire industry tied up in knots.  What they soon realize, there are no easy answers. Watch us on YouTube! Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

63 min
11 September 2024
Reading the tea leaves too early and what may be coming next

Rob and Greg are back to their regularly scheduled broadcast!  The episode includes discussion on Landian, the new “a la carte” brokerage launched by Josh Sitzer, yes, that Sitzer.  Rob discusses his recent Sub Stack post on “Amara’s Law and Real Estate” and how we shouldn’t read too much in to how things are going with the NAR settlement.  The boys also discuss online dating, new business models, capitalism and agent count.  But somehow they bring it all together.  Watch us on You Tube!   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

63 min
5 September 2024
Industry Relations Podcast: iOi, NAR's new CEO, the CCP and other letters of the alphabet

Greg joins Rob from Chicago where he was attending NAR's iOi Summit.  Greg gives his experience of being at the iOi Summit and discusses the pitch battle and his favorite new app, Tuesday, and its founder Cole Boyer who won "Crowd Favorite". They go on to discuss NAR's decision to appoint Nykia Wright as their new CEO and if experience in organized real estate or connections in Washington D.C. really matter.  As you can imgaine Greg and Rob have different opinions. They finish with discussing the ongoing rumors of the fate of Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP), a.k.a. "The Ocho".  It's a fun one! Watch us on YouTube!   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

57 min
28 August 2024
Industry Podcast Mash-Up

Rob and Greg teamed up with James Dwiggins and Keith Robinson from the Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered podcast during the recent Inman Connect Las Vegas event. From the complexities of forms and commission sharing, to the pros and cons of state association forms, the guys got into it.   They explored the potential for conspiracy charges in a post-settlement world and discussed the unintended consequences of recent MLS changes.   They also tackled determining property value without compensation data, the future of buyer agent compensation models, and how portals are shaping the market. Sharing valuable insights on agent responsiveness and the evolving landscape of mega teams and super agents.   Plus, how AI is transforming the search experience and the persistent challenge of housing affordability.   Follow Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered Podcast on Instagram - YouTube - Facebook - LinkedIn - TikTok. Visit us online at realestateinsidersunfiltered.com.   Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic. Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors:  Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

60 min
21 August 2024
Ethics and Transparency in Communication

Are you up to date on the recent changes in MLS rules and buyer agency agreements? In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding these updates and discuss the ethical implications for agents. From forgery to enforcement, confusion to challenges, this conversation covers a lot of ground. They shed light on the need for a substantive approach to reform in the real estate industry, while addressing the loss of trust between practitioners and those making the rules. With potential compression of commissions and uncertainty about the future of the industry, transparency and strong leadership are more important than ever. Don't miss this insightful discussion on ethics and transparency in communication within the real estate world. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

62 min
31 July 2024
Forgery & HOA Karens

Are you a real estate broker or agent grappling with the NAR settlement's requirement for written buyer agreements before showings? Rob and Greg dive deep into the controversy, debating the pros and cons of charging clients and exploring the potential consequences of non-compliance. They also discuss the evolving role of listing agents, the ethical dilemmas of dual agency, and the challenges of enforcing the new rules.  Link to Melissa from Twitter Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

58 min
24 July 2024
Meltdown: Is the End Near?

The August 17th deadline is almost here, and the industry is abuzz with talk of potential changes to MLSs and associations. Rob and Greg discuss the latest developments in the NAR settlement with the DOJ and its potential impact on compensation models, forms, and client relationships. With disruption looming, they delve into the hot topic of buyer agent commissions and agreements, as well as how to continue demonstrating value to clients in this ever-changing landscape.    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

50 min
17 July 2024
Industry Soup: Why the Human Touch Still Matters

What happens when industry news is quiet? Industry soup. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss various topics with an effort to draw parallels to real estate. From their weight loss strategies and detailed plan for a 60-day weight loss regimen to Tesla cars and the emotional connection people have with their vehicles. This conversation covers a lot.    Touching on simplicity in design and analog experiences in a tech-driven world. Rob and Greg explore the potential future of technology and the importance of human interaction in both real estate and tech companies.    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

47 min
10 July 2024
Real Estate Forms: Consumer-Friendly or Industry-Driven?

Are real estate forms truly consumer-friendly or are they just industry-driven? In this episode, Doug Miller and Wendy Gilch, Directors of CAARE (Consumer Advocates in American Real Estate), expose what they believe are the flaws in the current buyer agency agreements. From undisclosed dual agency to lack of cancellation clauses, these forms often prioritize the interests of industry competitors over consumers.    Rob, Greg, Doug and Wendy explore potential solutions such as creating consumer-friendly templates and implementing amendments. They dive into the complexities of fiduciary responsibility and touch on hot-button topics like compensation and collusion.    Plus, they address the importance of clear disclosure in real estate transactions, education for consumers, and informed consent. Don't miss this crucial conversation also covering NAR settlement, state forms vs eXp's form, unauthorized practice of law, referral fees, and negotiation tactics. Learn more about CAARE at caare.org.   Connect with Doug Miller on - LinkedIn. Connect with Wendy on - LinkedIn.   Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

55 min
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