Income Flip Podcast

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A wealth building podcast for real estate investors who are on the path of converting their active income into passive income through asset accumulation and business ownership. The Income Flip Podcast is a narrative podcast about real estate entrepreneurs, visionaries, and the stories behind the legacies they are creating. Hosted by Rob Chevez, CEO of The CAZA Group and Founder of GRID—a global network of 20k+ members dedicated to connecting, training, and inspiring real estate entrepreneurs to think big, act bold, and embrace wealth. Rob breaks down the real estate entrepreneurial journey in every episode, from answering the call with fresh eyes and shaky beginnings to the tests and trials of a real estate investor’s path through growth, transformation, and lessons learned. He covers everything from investor habits, routines, mindset, books, life philosophies, to meeting mentors and morning rituals. So be ready to learn more than real estate tactics and get ready to learn the spirit of the entrepreneurial real estate investor.

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May 19, 2026Episode 961 hr 2 min

#95. Charlie Einsmann—The Investor Who Turned a $600K Capital Call Into a Comeback Story

On this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with real estate investor and entrepreneur Charlie Einsmann to unpack the journey behind building a massive real estate business from the ground up. From engineering school and pre-foreclosures to surviving the 2008 crash and scaling through REOs, Charlie shares the scars, lessons, and strategies that shaped his success. They also dive into impact, legacy, and Charlie’s new nonprofit initiative, Clear Sky Sports Angels, helping disadvantaged kids access travel sports through a self-sustaining foundation model.

May 11, 2026Episode 9557 min

#94. Stella Han—The 22-Year-Old Investor Who Lost $55K, Then Built Fractional

Stella Han shares her journey from growing up in the Bay Area with software engineer parents who flipped houses, to becoming a real estate entrepreneur and founder of Fractional. After starting with out-of-state single-family investments in Atlanta, she attempted to raise $1M at age 22 for a 22-duplex portfolio but lost $55K due to securities and fundraising challenges. That failure inspired her to create Fractional, a platform helping investors form investment clubs as an alternative to traditional syndications. Backed by Y Combinator, Stella discusses failing forward, building in public, and embracing the identity shift required to become a startup founder.

April 28, 2026Episode 9448 min

#93. Earl Yaokasin — The CFA Who Outperformed Wall Street Explains Real Investing

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Earl Yaokasin shares his journey from hustling as a kid in the Philippines to becoming a high-performing investor who eventually outperformed institutional portfolio managers and launched his own firm. He breaks down how disciplined saving, long-term thinking, and calculated risk-taking allowed him to build a strong financial foundation before betting on himself. Earl explains key investing principles that apply to both stocks and real estate, including the importance of “turning over rocks” to find the best opportunities, evaluating both risk and reward, and maintaining a margin of safety. He also emphasizes the power of patience, showing how longer time horizons significantly increase the odds of success. Through practical insights and real-world examples, Earl highlights how consistent habits, smart decision-making, and a clear strategy can help investors build lasting wealth and confidently make the income flip.

April 21, 2026Episode 9347 min

#92. Grant Wise — From Broke at 23 to Scaling Millions in Real Estate Marketing

Grant Wise shares his entrepreneurial journey starting from a young age, driven by a desire to avoid the traditional 9–5 lifestyle. After early success in home services like gutters and roofing, he made poor financial decisions that led to bankruptcy at 23. From there, he rebuilt by leveraging social media marketing, selling courses, and scaling a consulting business into millions in revenue. He later launched a SaaS company for real estate professionals, faced leadership and scaling challenges, and ultimately pivoted again to focus on partnerships and new revenue streams. His story highlights resilience, experimentation, and the importance of finding scalable, aligned opportunities within real estate and business.

April 13, 2026Episode 9240 min

#91. Laura Rehbein—Why Most Investors Fail Without a Financial Plan

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Laura Rehbein shares her 30-year journey in finance and breaks down why having a clear financial plan is critical for real estate investors and entrepreneurs. She explains how many people accumulate wealth through deals, businesses, and investments but lack a structured strategy to tie it all together. Laura emphasizes the difference between the accumulation phase—focused on growth and risk—and the transition into preservation and income, where priorities must shift to stability, tax efficiency, and sustainable cash flow. She highlights common mistakes, such as continuing to chase high-risk returns in retirement and failing to define a clear “number” for financial security. Through practical insights and real-world examples, Laura reinforces the importance of being intentional with money, creating a long-term plan, and ensuring that wealth not only grows but also supports a secure and stress-free future.

April 7, 2026Episode 9148 min

#90. Will Harvey—Why Action Beats Overthinking in Real Estate

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Will Harvey shares his 10-year journey through real estate, starting with house hacking and small rental properties before realizing he didn’t enjoy being a landlord. After experimenting with multiple strategies—including flipping houses, multifamily syndications, and passive investing—he discovered his strengths on the finance side of the business. Will explains how he transitioned into hard money lending almost by accident, initially deploying idle capital into loans and then recognizing its potential as a scalable business. He dives into why lending fits his skill set, the benefits of fund structures for diversification, and how trial and error ultimately helped him find his niche. The conversation highlights a key lesson for investors: success in real estate often comes from trying different paths until you identify the one that aligns with your strengths, interests, and long-term goals.

April 1, 2026Episode 9040 min

#89. Eddie Speed—40 Years in Real Estate: How Inflation Kills Rentals

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Eddie Speed shares his 40-year journey from a young cowboy with no real estate background to becoming one of the leading experts in note investing. He explains how he stumbled into the business by learning from a mentor who transitioned from owning rental properties to buying notes due to inflation eroding cash flow. Eddie breaks down the fundamental difference between being a landlord and being the bank, emphasizing the power of getting paid first rather than dealing with the ongoing challenges of property ownership. He also highlights why today’s economic environment—marked by rising costs and compressed rental returns—makes notes more attractive than ever, offering investors a more predictable, passive income stream. Throughout the conversation, he underscores the importance of being coachable, solving real problems for others, and leveraging simple but powerful financial principles to build long-term wealth.

March 23, 2026Episode 891 hr 6 min

#88. Maria Di Poce—$15K at 19: The Deal That Changed Everything

Maria DiPoce is a proven leader in real estate with nearly 9 years of experience as a Keller Williams Team Leader. In that role, she recruited, trained, and coached hundreds of agents while guiding an office that closed more than 1,400 transactions a year. Her background sharpened her skills in talent attraction, business development, and accountability, giving her a unique perspective on what drives both individual and office-wide success. Today, Maria combines her long-standing leadership experience with her sales expertise to help agents build scalable, profitable businesses.

March 17, 2026Episode 881 hr 1 min

#87. Sharad Mehta—$200K a Year, 20 Minutes a Week: The System Behind It

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with Sharad Mehta, a real estate investor and founder of REsimpli, to discuss how he transformed his business from hands-on operations to a highly efficient, virtual model. After completing hundreds of deals and stepping away from being physically present in his market, Sharad identified major inefficiencies and shifted his focus to building systems, processes, and data-driven decision-making. Now running his business with a small, distributed team, he emphasizes that real estate is fundamentally a marketing business where success depends on tracking ROI, optimizing channels, and leveraging automation. The result is a scalable, hands-off operation that generates strong profits while requiring minimal time and direct involvement.

February 18, 2026Episode 8748 min

#86. Neal Bawa—How the Wealthy Legally Pay Less Tax with Real Estate

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with Neal Bawa, known as the “Mad Scientist of Real Estate,” to unpack how data—not opinions—drives smarter investing. A former Silicon Valley executive, Neal shares how discovering the power of depreciation and tax strategy led him into real estate, and how he slowly transitioned from tech to building a multifamily portfolio. The conversation dives deep into using job growth, population trends, and demographic data to rank markets, why most investors misunderstand growth states, and how to identify emerging opportunities before the crowd. If you want to invest based on numbers instead of noise, this episode is a masterclass in data-driven real estate strategy.