In AI We Trust?

Hosted by Miriam Vogel

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In AI We Trust? is a podcast with Miriam Vogel of EqualAI that amplifies leaders and voices from across society who are defining, developing, and deploying AI best practices across government, industry, academia, and civil society. In each episode, Miriam sits down with guests to demystify the technology, discuss the importance of AI governance and AI literacy, and spark conversations about people’s hopes, fears, and opportunities in an AI-shaped future.

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October 26, 2026Episode 13220 min

Rep. Ted Lieu on The Policy Stakes of AI Governance - Keynote Remarks at EqualAI's Preparing America for the AI Economy Summit

At EqualAI's Preparing America for the AI Economy summit, Congressman Ted Lieu (CA-36) took the stage to deliver a keynote on the policy stakes of AI governance. On this episode of In AI We Trust , EqualAI President & CEO Miriam Vogel shares keynote remarks from Congressman Ted Lieu, co-chair of the House AI Task Force, recorded live at the summit. Drawing on his background as a computer scientist, Congressman Lieu explains why human-in-the-loop safeguards are essential. Ahead of his remarks, Rep. Lieu received EqualAI's AI Oversight & Accountability Award in recognition of his leadership advancing fairness, accountability, and transparency in AI, and his sustained engagement with the difficult questions of how we govern increasingly powerful systems. Tune into this episode of In AI We Trust? to hear Rep. Lieu's full remarks.

October 20, 2026Episode 13133 min

AI in Education: Sal Khan, Founder and CEO of Khan Academy, at EqualAI's Preparing America for the AI Economy Summit

At EqualAI's Preparing America for the AI Economy summit, Sal Khan, Founder & CEO of Khan Academy, joined Miriam Vogel, President & CEO of EqualAI, for a fireside chat on how AI is changing teaching and learning. Sal and Miriam explore how AI can augment teachers, personalize learning, and prepare students for an AI-driven workforce, including through innovations like Khanmigo, Khan Academy's AI tutor. Sal breaks down two years of real-world classroom data, explaining how thoughtful AI guardrails keep students accountable rather than doing the work for them, and he discusses how blanket school bans risk widening the divide for low-income students who rely on schools for AI literacy.

October 15, 2026Episode 13027 min

AI Literacy and the Future of Information: Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, at EqualAI's Preparing America for the AI Economy Summit

How do you embrace AI to transform your operations without losing the public trust that keeps journalism alive? At EqualAI's Preparing America for the AI Summit, Miriam Vogel spoke with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic about how news leaders can navigate the AI boom by balancing pragmatic business deals, public dialogue and AI literacy . Nicholas shares how one of America's oldest media institutions uses AI behind the scenes to support journalists' workflows and analyze subscription data, while strictly keeping AI out of the newsroom to protect editorial integrity. Together, they discuss why human judgment and messiness remain journalism's greatest assets in an automated world.

October 6, 2026Episode 12947 min

Preparing Society for our AI Future: Google DeepMind’s Lila Ibrahim and Lucy Calcott on their mission for AI Readiness

What does it take to get society ready for AI? On this episode of In AI We Trust , EqualAI President & CEO Miriam Vogel talks with Google DeepMind's: Lila Ibrahim, Chief AI Readiness Officer, and Lucy Calcott, AI Deployed Engineer. Lila explains why she took on a new C-suite role focused on readiness after serving as COO, and why success depends on managing risk, broadening access and building AI literacy through partnerships across sectors and borders. Lucy shares how AI is reshaping global affairs and young people's careers, and how it can speed up research and improve education and health care in underserved communities. Together, they discuss how to deploy AI so it strengthens our uniquely human skills, and how to co-create a better future.

August 25, 2026Episode 12841 min

Manage the Machine: Paula Goldman on How to Harness Human-AI Collaboration at Work

On this episode of In AI We Trust? , EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel speaks with Paula Goldman, Salesforce’s Chief Ethical and Humane Use Officer and EVP of Product. In anticipation of Paula’s forthcoming book Manage the Machine: How to Harness Human AI Collaboration at Work, they discuss how AI can be designed and used in a way that centers and strengthens human judgment and human connection. The end goal is to expand accessibility and improve people’s experiences across domains, including HR, customer service, and marketing.

July 8, 2026Episode 12749 min

Yoel Roth on The Future of Trust & Safety: Governing Agentic AI and Empowering Teams

In this episode, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel interviews Yoel Roth, Senior Vice President of Trust and Safety at Match Group and EqualAI Board Member. Yoel shares how trust and safety operations function as an enterprise growth engine rather than a mere cost center. He outlines five categories of online harm—physical, emotional, informational, economic, and societal—and discusses how his team addresses these challenges on popular dating apps used by millions worldwide. He describes how AI can be used to help enable human connection and support the work of trust and safety professionals, emphasizing the need for a measured, human-supervised approach to ensure AI is deployed with good governance in place and that decisions impacting users are made fairly, consistently, and accurately.

June 23, 2026Episode 12642 min

AI Literacy Series Ep. 16: Karim Meghji, President and CEO of Code AI, on Empowering Students and Teachers and Developing Human Agency in the Age of AI

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President & CEO Miriam Vogel interviews Karim Meghji, President and CEO of CodeAI , We recorded this session as CodeAI launches its first of its kind joint AI Literacy (AILit) Framework with the European Commission and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD. A global education non-profit originally founded in 2013, Karim discusses CodeAI's massive scale, reaching over 150 million students and 3 million teachers across 190 countries. Miriam and Karim address the organization's flagship Hour of AI campaign, which has engaged over 33 million learners in fun, educational coding activities designed around core learning objectives. Karim also shares his personal practice of using AI as a sounding board to challenge his ideas, while cautioning against using it to replace authentic human voice. We hope you enjoy this episode!

May 15, 2026Episode 12537 min

Work in the AI Age: U.S. Labor Acting Secretary Keith Sonderling on Upskilling American Workers

On this special episode of In AI We Trust?, U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) Acting Secretary Keith Sonderling joins EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel to discuss a moment of urgency and opportunity for the American workforce. In keynote remarks at a reception following EqualAI’s Summit on Agentic AI, the Acting Secretary outlines the federal government’s mission to prepare the American workforce for AI by demystifying the technology and moving from a narrative of fear to one of job augmentation. The conversation explores the DOL’s ambitious goal of reaching one million active apprenticeships, expanding beyond traditional trades into corporate America and the tech sector, while ensuring that industry-led curriculum bridges the skills gap for the next generation of citizens. From the launch of an AI literacy framework to a free, text-based course designed to reach every American with a cell phone, this episode provides an overview of how DOL is actively approaching its goal to ensure an AI-ready workforce.

April 30, 2026Episode 12434 min

Inside the Department of Labor's Plan to Make American Workers AI-Ready

In this episode, Miriam Vogel, President and CEO of EqualAI, sits down with Taylor Stockton, Chief Innovation Officer at the U.S. Department of Labor, to discuss what the federal government is doing to prepare workers for the AI economy. Stockton walks through the DOL's AI Literacy Framework, a text message-based literacy course designed to reach workers where they are, modernized apprenticeships with embedded AI skills, and the new AI Workforce Hub — a real-time resource tracking how AI is transforming jobs across sectors. Taylor shares his favorite use cases and how the federal government is adhering to the Executive Order to increase its own AI use.

April 13, 2026Episode 12341 min

Learning at Scale: Live from the ASU+GSV Summit with Deborah Quazzo

In this special episode of In AI We Trust? , Miriam Vogel sits down with Deborah Quazzo, Managing Partner of GSV Ventures and co-founder of ASU+GSV Summit, one of the most influential gatherings at the intersection of education and innovation. Recorded as the Summit unfolds, Quazzo offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how ASU+GSV has grown into a "multi-dimensional marketplace" — one that puts philanthropists, commercial investors, K-12 superintendents, and university presidents in the same room to tackle education's biggest challenges together. She makes a compelling case for AI's potential to create personalized learning pathways, close persistent skills gaps, and drive students toward mastery at scale — and why getting the governance right is what makes all of it possible.