In AI We Trust?

Hosted by Miriam Vogel

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In AI We Trust? is a podcast with Miriam Vogel of EqualAI that amplifies leaders and voices from across society who are defining, developing, and deploying AI best practices across government, industry, academia, and civil society. In each episode, Miriam sits down with guests to demystify the technology, discuss the importance of AI governance and AI literacy, and spark conversations about people’s hopes, fears, and opportunities in an AI-shaped future.

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May 15, 2026Episode 12537 min

Work in the AI Age: U.S. Labor Acting Secretary Keith Sonderling on Upskilling American Workers

On this special episode of In AI We Trust?, U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) Acting Secretary Keith Sonderling joins EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel to discuss a moment of urgency and opportunity for the American workforce. In keynote remarks at a reception following EqualAI’s Summit on Agentic AI, the Acting Secretary outlines the federal government’s mission to prepare the American workforce for AI by demystifying the technology and moving from a narrative of fear to one of job augmentation. The conversation explores the DOL’s ambitious goal of reaching one million active apprenticeships, expanding beyond traditional trades into corporate America and the tech sector, while ensuring that industry-led curriculum bridges the skills gap for the next generation of citizens. From the launch of an AI literacy framework to a free, text-based course designed to reach every American with a cell phone, this episode provides an overview of how DOL is actively approaching its goal to ensure an AI-ready workforce.

April 30, 2026Episode 12434 min

Inside the Department of Labor's Plan to Make American Workers AI-Ready

In this episode, Miriam Vogel, President and CEO of EqualAI, sits down with Taylor Stockton, Chief Innovation Officer at the U.S. Department of Labor, to discuss what the federal government is doing to prepare workers for the AI economy. Stockton walks through the DOL's AI Literacy Framework, a text message-based literacy course designed to reach workers where they are, modernized apprenticeships with embedded AI skills, and the new AI Workforce Hub — a real-time resource tracking how AI is transforming jobs across sectors. Taylor shares his favorite use cases and how the federal government is adhering to the Executive Order to increase its own AI use.

April 13, 2026Episode 12341 min

Learning at Scale: Live from the ASU+GSV Summit with Deborah Quazzo

In this special episode of In AI We Trust?, Miriam Vogel sits down with Deborah Quazzo, Managing Partner of GSV Ventures and co-founder of ASU+GSV Summit, one of the most influential gatherings at the intersection of education and innovation. Recorded as the Summit unfolds, Quazzo offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how ASU+GSV has grown into a "multi-dimensional marketplace" — one that puts philanthropists, commercial investors, K-12 superintendents, and university presidents in the same room to tackle education's biggest challenges together. She makes a compelling case for AI's potential to create personalized learning pathways, close persistent skills gaps, and drive students toward mastery at scale — and why getting the governance right is what makes all of it possible.

March 24, 2026Episode 12252 min

Robbie Torney on Common Sense Media’s 2026 Summit (this week), Impact of AI on Children, and New Report on Kids and Families

On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President & CEO Miriam Vogel and EqualAI Senior Advisor Nuala O’Connor co-host a conversation with Robbie Torney, Head of AI & Digital Assessments at Common Sense Media. They discuss the third annual Common Sense Media’s Summit on Kids and Families (March 23-24), the premier cross-sector gathering on child wellbeing in the digital age. Robbie Torney shares his valuable insights on how AI tools are affecting children’s learning and development, mental health, and growing up in a world that is hyperconnected. They dig in on topics impacting kids, families, and educators, including AI companions, chatbots, and AI toys, the importance of AI safety features and parental controls, gaps in AI usage among boys and girls, and how to protect kids in the AI era.

March 11, 2026Episode 12141 min

AI Literacy Series Ep. 15: Dr. Chris Howard, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Arizona State University

On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sat down for a conversation with Dr. Chris Howard, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Arizona State University (ASU). They reflected on EqualAI’s recent AI Literacy Initiative event with ASU in Scottsdale, Arizona, featuring ASU President Michael Crow, Taylor Stockton, CIO of DOL, ASU Chief Information Officer Lev Gonick, Dean of ASU’s Walter Cronkite School of Journalism Battinto Batts, and Dean of ASU’s Mary Lou Fulton Teachers College Carole Basile, among other notable speakers. Dr. Howard and Miriam Vogel dove into ASU leadership on AI and education, including how ASU is using AI to help build human capacity and create impact for students and learners as they prepare to enter the workforce, and how AI fits in with ASU’s charter statement.

February 4, 2026Episode 12047 min

Maintaining Optimism in a World of AI Opportunity and Risk - John Bailey, Nonresident Senior Fellow at American Enterprise Institute

On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel and EqualAI Senior Advisor Nuala O’Connor sit down with John Bailey, Nonresident Senior Fellow at American Enterprise Institute, where he focuses on the intersection of technology and innovation in areas such as education and the workforce, and how to leverage the benefits of emerging technologies while minimizing the risks. John shares his thoughts on the challenges and opportunities that AI presents, including in education, healthcare/mental health and the workforce, and why he is optimistic about the future of AI and new possibilities being opened up by generative AI and agentic AI. He also shares his thoughts on the importance of AI literacy and ensuring people’s trust in AI, as well as ways that AI frontier labs, educators and others can help guide a path toward safe and beneficial AI adoption.

January 22, 2026Episode 11947 min

AI Governance and the Role of Boards of Directors f/t Joshua Geltzer and Jessica Lewis of WilmerHale

EqualAI is thrilled to share the publication of our AI Governance Playbook for Boards—a practical guide to help Boards of Directors responsibly oversee AI while balancing risk management, value creation, and emerging legal and compliance obligations. On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sits down with our partners at WilmerHale, Jessica Lewis and Joshua Geltzer, to discuss the newly released Playbook, and Jessica and Joshua break down why Board-level engagement in AI governance is no longer optional—but both a best practice and, increasingly, a legal requirement.

December 18, 2025Episode 11831 min

EqualAI End of Year Podcast Episode + Governing the Machine Excerpt

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel offers a special sneak peak into Governing the Machine, the book she co-authored and released this year, which is available online and in-stores and on audible (with a familiar voice). In this special episode, Miriam Vogel reflects on a pivotal year for AI—and what it means for all of us. She shares key moments from 2025, including highlights on the work advanced alongside partners across industry, government, and civil society, and why this growing community matters as AI reshapes how we work, learn, and govern. The episode concludes with the exclusive excerpt from a chapter in Governing the Machine, offering a deeper look at how we got here—and how we move forward with clarity and trust. We’re excited to continue the conversation in 2026 with new guests, expanded AI literacy discussions, and timely insights you won’t want to miss.

December 2, 2025Episode 11747 min

AI Literacy Series Ep. 14: Chattanooga Mayor Tim Kelly and Heartland Forward President Angie Cooper

From November 11-12, 2025, EqualAI and Heartland Forward organized a convening with Mayor Tim Kelly of Chattanooga, Tennessee focused on AI in education and the workforce. The event brought together approximately 60 leaders from the City of Chattanooga and across the State of Tennessee to examine how AI is reshaping the education and jobs landscape and discuss the risks and opportunities of integrating AI into schools and workplaces. In Chattanooga, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sat down with Mayor Kelly and Heartland Forward President Angie Cooper for a podcast recording of In AI We Trust? During the discussion, Mayor Kelly discussed real-world examples of how the City of Chattanooga is using AI in practical ways to help improve everyday quality of life for city residents, and Angie shared about how her organization, a “think-and-do-tank,” has launched the first-ever Heartland AI Caucus. Learn about all this and much more in this latest episode!

November 17, 2025Episode 11643 min

Axios Chief Technology Correspondent Ina Fried on AI and This Moment in Technology

On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel speaks with Axios Chief Technology Correspondent Ina Fried about how AI and this moment in technology compares to other earlier moments of transformation and Ina’s role as a journalist writing the Axios AI+ newsletter and putting together Axios’s AI+ Summits. In the episode, Ina discusses how AI is impacting jobs and her own work as a journalist, the complexity involved in building AI into human processes, and her hopes for the future of AI. You will not want to miss Ina’s sharp insights in this latest episode. Tune in now!