In AI We Trust?

Hosted by Miriam Vogel

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In AI We Trust? is a podcast with Miriam Vogel of EqualAI that amplifies leaders and voices from across society who are defining, developing, and deploying AI best practices across government, industry, academia, and civil society. In each episode, Miriam sits down with guests to demystify the technology, discuss the importance of AI governance and AI literacy, and spark conversations about people’s hopes, fears, and opportunities in an AI-shaped future.

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July 8, 2026Episode 12749 min

Yoel Roth on The Future of Trust & Safety: Governing Agentic AI and Empowering Teams

In this episode, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel interviews Yoel Roth, Senior Vice President of Trust and Safety at Match Group and EqualAI Board Member. Yoel shares how trust and safety operations function as an enterprise growth engine rather than a mere cost center. He outlines five categories of online harm—physical, emotional, informational, economic, and societal—and discusses how his team addresses these challenges on popular dating apps used by millions worldwide. He describes how AI can be used to help enable human connection and support the work of trust and safety professionals, emphasizing the need for a measured, human-supervised approach to ensure AI is deployed with good governance in place and that decisions impacting users are made fairly, consistently, and accurately.

June 23, 2026Episode 12642 min

AI Literacy Series Ep. 16: Karim Meghji, President and CEO of Code AI, on Empowering Students and Teachers and Developing Human Agency in the Age of AI

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President & CEO Miriam Vogel interviews Karim Meghji, President and CEO of CodeAI, We recorded this session as CodeAI launches its first of its kind joint AI Literacy (AILit) Framework with the European Commission and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD. A global education non-profit originally founded in 2013, Karim discusses CodeAI's massive scale, reaching over 150 million students and 3 million teachers across 190 countries. Miriam and Karim address the organization's flagship Hour of AI campaign, which has engaged over 33 million learners in fun, educational coding activities designed around core learning objectives. Karim also shares his personal practice of using AI as a sounding board to challenge his ideas, while cautioning against using it to replace authentic human voice. We hope you enjoy this episode!

May 15, 2026Episode 12537 min

Work in the AI Age: U.S. Labor Acting Secretary Keith Sonderling on Upskilling American Workers

On this special episode of In AI We Trust?, U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) Acting Secretary Keith Sonderling joins EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel to discuss a moment of urgency and opportunity for the American workforce. In keynote remarks at a reception following EqualAI’s Summit on Agentic AI, the Acting Secretary outlines the federal government’s mission to prepare the American workforce for AI by demystifying the technology and moving from a narrative of fear to one of job augmentation. The conversation explores the DOL’s ambitious goal of reaching one million active apprenticeships, expanding beyond traditional trades into corporate America and the tech sector, while ensuring that industry-led curriculum bridges the skills gap for the next generation of citizens. From the launch of an AI literacy framework to a free, text-based course designed to reach every American with a cell phone, this episode provides an overview of how DOL is actively approaching its goal to ensure an AI-ready workforce.

April 30, 2026Episode 12434 min

Inside the Department of Labor's Plan to Make American Workers AI-Ready

In this episode, Miriam Vogel, President and CEO of EqualAI, sits down with Taylor Stockton, Chief Innovation Officer at the U.S. Department of Labor, to discuss what the federal government is doing to prepare workers for the AI economy. Stockton walks through the DOL's AI Literacy Framework, a text message-based literacy course designed to reach workers where they are, modernized apprenticeships with embedded AI skills, and the new AI Workforce Hub — a real-time resource tracking how AI is transforming jobs across sectors. Taylor shares his favorite use cases and how the federal government is adhering to the Executive Order to increase its own AI use.

April 13, 2026Episode 12341 min

Learning at Scale: Live from the ASU+GSV Summit with Deborah Quazzo

In this special episode of In AI We Trust?, Miriam Vogel sits down with Deborah Quazzo, Managing Partner of GSV Ventures and co-founder of ASU+GSV Summit, one of the most influential gatherings at the intersection of education and innovation. Recorded as the Summit unfolds, Quazzo offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how ASU+GSV has grown into a "multi-dimensional marketplace" — one that puts philanthropists, commercial investors, K-12 superintendents, and university presidents in the same room to tackle education's biggest challenges together. She makes a compelling case for AI's potential to create personalized learning pathways, close persistent skills gaps, and drive students toward mastery at scale — and why getting the governance right is what makes all of it possible.

March 24, 2026Episode 12252 min

Robbie Torney on Common Sense Media’s 2026 Summit (this week), Impact of AI on Children, and New Report on Kids and Families

On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President & CEO Miriam Vogel and EqualAI Senior Advisor Nuala O’Connor co-host a conversation with Robbie Torney, Head of AI & Digital Assessments at Common Sense Media. They discuss the third annual Common Sense Media’s Summit on Kids and Families (March 23-24), the premier cross-sector gathering on child wellbeing in the digital age. Robbie Torney shares his valuable insights on how AI tools are affecting children’s learning and development, mental health, and growing up in a world that is hyperconnected. They dig in on topics impacting kids, families, and educators, including AI companions, chatbots, and AI toys, the importance of AI safety features and parental controls, gaps in AI usage among boys and girls, and how to protect kids in the AI era.

March 11, 2026Episode 12141 min

AI Literacy Series Ep. 15: Dr. Chris Howard, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Arizona State University

On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sat down for a conversation with Dr. Chris Howard, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Arizona State University (ASU). They reflected on EqualAI’s recent AI Literacy Initiative event with ASU in Scottsdale, Arizona, featuring ASU President Michael Crow, Taylor Stockton, CIO of DOL, ASU Chief Information Officer Lev Gonick, Dean of ASU’s Walter Cronkite School of Journalism Battinto Batts, and Dean of ASU’s Mary Lou Fulton Teachers College Carole Basile, among other notable speakers. Dr. Howard and Miriam Vogel dove into ASU leadership on AI and education, including how ASU is using AI to help build human capacity and create impact for students and learners as they prepare to enter the workforce, and how AI fits in with ASU’s charter statement.

February 4, 2026Episode 12047 min

Maintaining Optimism in a World of AI Opportunity and Risk - John Bailey, Nonresident Senior Fellow at American Enterprise Institute

On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel and EqualAI Senior Advisor Nuala O’Connor sit down with John Bailey, Nonresident Senior Fellow at American Enterprise Institute, where he focuses on the intersection of technology and innovation in areas such as education and the workforce, and how to leverage the benefits of emerging technologies while minimizing the risks. John shares his thoughts on the challenges and opportunities that AI presents, including in education, healthcare/mental health and the workforce, and why he is optimistic about the future of AI and new possibilities being opened up by generative AI and agentic AI. He also shares his thoughts on the importance of AI literacy and ensuring people’s trust in AI, as well as ways that AI frontier labs, educators and others can help guide a path toward safe and beneficial AI adoption.

January 22, 2026Episode 11947 min

AI Governance and the Role of Boards of Directors f/t Joshua Geltzer and Jessica Lewis of WilmerHale

EqualAI is thrilled to share the publication of our AI Governance Playbook for Boards—a practical guide to help Boards of Directors responsibly oversee AI while balancing risk management, value creation, and emerging legal and compliance obligations. On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sits down with our partners at WilmerHale, Jessica Lewis and Joshua Geltzer, to discuss the newly released Playbook, and Jessica and Joshua break down why Board-level engagement in AI governance is no longer optional—but both a best practice and, increasingly, a legal requirement.

December 18, 2025Episode 11831 min

EqualAI End of Year Podcast Episode + Governing the Machine Excerpt

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel offers a special sneak peak into Governing the Machine, the book she co-authored and released this year, which is available online and in-stores and on audible (with a familiar voice). In this special episode, Miriam Vogel reflects on a pivotal year for AI—and what it means for all of us. She shares key moments from 2025, including highlights on the work advanced alongside partners across industry, government, and civil society, and why this growing community matters as AI reshapes how we work, learn, and govern. The episode concludes with the exclusive excerpt from a chapter in Governing the Machine, offering a deeper look at how we got here—and how we move forward with clarity and trust. We’re excited to continue the conversation in 2026 with new guests, expanded AI literacy discussions, and timely insights you won’t want to miss.

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