S5 E25: The Revolutionary Goats
Send us Fan Mail Dale and Brian Karmie take a closer look at some of the Revolutionary War’s most infamous “goats”—men who had the potential to be heroes but ultimately found themselves on the wrong side of history. From Charles Lee and Horatio Gates to Benjamin Franklin’s loyalist son William and the infamous Benedict Arnold, they explore how ambition, selfishness, disloyalty, and poor decisions turned promising figures into cautionary tales. The conversation also examines John André, the British officer whose role in the plot with Benedict Arnold placed him on the “goat” list despite the honor and respect he demonstrated in the end. Throughout the episode, Dale and Brian reflect on a larger lesson from these stories: the difference between ambition that serves others and selfish ambition that puts self above country, relationships, and the greater good. Episode Highlights: Charles Lee’s fall from favor. Horatio Gates and Saratoga. Benjamin Franklin’s loyalist son. Benedict Arnold turns traitor. John André and honor in defeat. Links Mentioned in Episode/Find More on ForeverLawn: www.foreverlawn.com Impact Without Limits Instagram: @impact_withoutlimits ForeverLawn’s Instagram: @foreverlawninc Get Grass Without Limits Here Visit our show notes page HERE Subscribe to Our Newsletter HERE Dale’s Instagram: @dalekarmie Brian’s Instagram: @bkarmie Find Our Shorts on the ForeverLawn YouTube Channel This show has been produced by Adkins Media Co.






