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Hospice Insights: The Law and Beyond

Tune in to Husch Blackwell’s hospice podcast with Meg Pekarske for conversations with industry innovators and fundamentals for navigating hospice law. In our commitment to monitoring updates and fostering learning, each episode delivers essential information clients need for best solutions in this changing healthcare sector.
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Psychedelics and End of Life Care: Understanding the Legal Landscape
12 March 2025
Psychedelics and End of Life Care: Understanding the Legal Landscape

There has been a lot of buzz around psychedelics and particularly their potential usefulness in treating existential suffering at the end of life. Husch Blackwell was the first law firm in the country to establish a Psychedelics & Emerging Therapies practice group devoted to helping clinicians, researchers, and investors navigate the complex and difficult legal and regulatory issues involved in developing new therapies in this space.In this episode, host Meg Pekarske is joined by the leaders of Husch Blackwell’s Psychedelics & Emerging Therapies practice group, Kimberly Chew, Karen Luong, and Natasha Sumner, who provide an overview of what psychedelics are, their legal status under federal and state laws, and liability considerations for clinicians. We also discuss the recent amicus brief they filed on behalf of nearly 30 end of life and palliative care providers in a case before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. While there is a lot to digest here, we hope it is a helpful starting point for learning about this complex and evolving area.

33 min
Controlling the Narrative: A New Tactic for Auditors and ALJs
19 February 2025
Controlling the Narrative: A New Tactic for Auditors and ALJs

Hospices that have gone through audits are familiar with certain recurring reasons why auditors deny claims. Two common reasons are the lack of support for a six-month prognosis and the insufficiency of the physician narrative. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss a new twist on these kinds of denials, and how hospices can strengthen their documentation to try to avoid them.

11 min
Upping the Ante: Will CMS’s Enhanced Oversight Efforts Cause Hospices to Fold?
29 January 2025
Upping the Ante: Will CMS’s Enhanced Oversight Efforts Cause Hospices to Fold?

CMS recently expanded its Provisional Period of Enhanced Oversight, or PPEO, in Arizona, California, Nevada, and Texas, and its enforcement activities nationwide appear more aggressive. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss these enhanced oversight efforts and ways, both structurally and operationally, for hospices to mitigate these risks.

19 min
A Year in Review: Reflections and Hopes for the Future
8 January 2025
A Year in Review: Reflections and Hopes for the Future

It’s our first podcast of 2025 and we wanted to start the year out with some reflections. Join Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki as they each share their biggest surprises and victories of 2024 and what is on their wish list for 2025. We hope you enjoy this episode and let us know what is on your wish list of podcast topics for 2025. Wishing you a happy new year!

34 min
What a Difference No Deference Makes: Courts No Longer Bow to Administrative Agencies
4 December 2024
What a Difference No Deference Makes: Courts No Longer Bow to Administrative Agencies

The United States Supreme Court recently overruled decades-old precedent that favored an administrative agency’s interpretation of ambiguous statutes. This seismic shift in the role of the judiciary will affect every regulated industry, including healthcare and hospice in particular. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss the implications of this decision in the hospice space.

18 min
Meet the New Laws, Same as the Old Laws: Overpayment Recoupment Update
13 November 2024
Meet the New Laws, Same as the Old Laws: Overpayment Recoupment Update

Hospices that have been audited have to decide how to address any alleged overpayment identified by the auditor, whether through a voluntary repayment, recoupment, or applying for an extended repayment schedule. CMS recently identified updates to the Medicare Financial Management Manual relating to these options. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss those updates which, practically speaking, do not significantly change the existing options.Additional Resources:MM 11808 - Limitation on Recoupment of Medicare OverpaymentsCR 11808 - Updating Chapter 3, Sections 200.5 - 200.8, Limitation on Recoupment; Medicare Overpayments Manual

22 min
What’s Good and Bad in Hospice Right Now: A Conversation with Greg Grabowski, Partner at Hospice Advisors
23 October 2024
What’s Good and Bad in Hospice Right Now: A Conversation with Greg Grabowski, Partner at Hospice Advisors

In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske is joined by long-time hospice friend and industry guru Greg Grabowski. They turned the microphone on their usually private (but always lively) discussions on what’s going on in the wide world of hospice. To make it especially fun, they each prepared, but did not share prior to recording, their own list of what’s working and not working in hospice right now. Listen in to see how their observations match up.

50 min
What’s the Latest on UPICs?  Highlights From Recent Audit Activity, Part II
2 October 2024
What’s the Latest on UPICs?  Highlights From Recent Audit Activity, Part II

UPIC activity is picking up, and the UPICs are reviving some old tactics. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki continue the discussion on these trends which include extrapolation, Medicaid nursing home room and board payments, patient interviews, and more. Meg and Bryan also describe some handouts they’ve developed to help hospices stay prepared for the inevitable audit.

19 min
What’s the Latest on UPICs? Highlights From Recent Audit Activity, Part I
11 September 2024
What’s the Latest on UPICs? Highlights From Recent Audit Activity, Part I

UPIC activity is picking up, and the UPICs are reviving some old tactics. In this episode, Husch Blackwell's Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss these trends which include extrapolation, Medicaid nursing home room and board payments, patient interviews, and more. Meg and Bryan also describe some handouts they’ve developed to help hospices stay prepared for the inevitable audit.

21 min
Stories of Successful Hospice Leadership: The CEO and Chief Medical Officer Relationship
21 August 2024
Stories of Successful Hospice Leadership: The CEO and Chief Medical Officer Relationship

A strong and engaged Chief Medical Officer (CMO) may be a hospice CEO’s most important asset. But what does a successful CEO/CMO relationship look like and how must it evolve to meet today’s challenges? In this episode we get to find out, as Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske is joined by HopeHealth CEO Diana Franchitto and Dr. Edward Martin, CMO, whose trusted relationship has been instrumental to the organization’s success and clinical expansion. Whether it be forging new community partnerships or advocating for patients, Diana and Ed bring a wonderful compliment of strengths to advancing end-of-life care in their community. Listen in…be inspired!

38 min
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