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Hi! I'm Jess. This year, I finally started investing. After years of indecision, I took a leap and began documenting my journey, bringing you along to learn the investing ropes together. Designed to build your confidence, our short, easy-to-understand episodes make investing approachable- so you can make the most of your money. New episodes drop every Tuesday & Thursday. On Tuesdays: I tackle real questions from a beginner investor- whether my own or sent in by our community. We cover everything from ETFs & shares, to super, property and personal finance. On Thursdays: Our series, How I Got Started where I chat with a community members to hear the highs, lows and lessons from their investing journey- proving that investing really is for anyone. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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August 19, 202631 min

How Kelly built a $280K portfolio and bought two investment properties before 30

Kelly grew up watching her immigrant parents work two jobs, seven days a week, after arriving in Australia with very little money. She thought the only path to wealth was to work harder. Then she discovered investing and realised her money could work just as hard as she did. Before turning 30, she's built a $280,000 investment portfolio and bought two investment properties. Jess sits down with Kelly to unpack the lessons she learned from watching her parents' sacrifices, why she focuses on growing her income as much as her investments (more than doubling it in just a few years), how she uses both property and shares to build wealth and why you absolutely don't need to be rich to get started. For more regular updates from Jess’ investing journey, follow along on instagram at getstartedinvesting_ Chapters: 00:00:00 From Super Saver To Serious Investor 00:03:48 The Money Lessons That Started It All 00:07:43 Buying Her First Property In Her Twenties 00:11:17 Why Saving Alone Was Not Enough 00:14:00 Turning One Hundred Dollars Into A Habit 00:17:51 How Kelly Built Her Portfolio 00:21:11 Growing Her Income From 75K To 175K 00:24:30 Avoiding Lifestyle Creep As Income Grows 00:26:00 What Kelly Is Building Wealth For 00:29:14 Why Investing Is Not Just For The Rich Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— Thanks to ShopBack for sponsoring this series. Want to get paid for shopping online? 💸 ShopBack gives you real Cashback on purchases you're already making, which you can then transfer into your bank account (or brokerage app!). Download the app here and use code GETSTARTED20 to get a $20 cashback bonus once you've earned your first $10! ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 17, 202634 min

How should couples manage money and invest? A financial adviser explains

Joint accounts or separate? Split bills 50/50? Invest together or keep it separate? Ask five couples how they manage money and you'll probably get five different answers. After buying her first home with her partner, Jess put the question to the Get Started Investing community and quickly realised there were plenty of different approaches. So she sat down with financial adviser Glen Hare to hear what he sees working best for the couples he advises, and how they navigate everything from bank accounts and budgeting to shared goals, different money personalities (saver v spender) and building a financial life together. Plus, producer Soph calls in from her honeymoon with a question many newlyweds face: should married couples combine their investments, or keep investing separately? Chapters: 00:00:00 How Should Couples Manage Money? 00:03:00 Separate Or Combine Your Finances? 00:07:30 When Separate Money Stops Working 00:12:53 Getting On The Same Financial Page 00:15:15 When One Partner Hates Talking Money 00:19:14 Should Couples Invest Together? 00:23:30 The Tax Trap When Combining Investments 00:27:18 What If Your Risk Tolerances Differ? 00:31:22 The Money Conversation Every Couple Needs If you want to get in touch with Glen Hare we can put you in touch here You can follow Jess’s journey further with regular updates on Instagram at getstartedinvesting_ Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— Thanks to MLC for sponsoring this series and helping keep our content free. If you’re the type of person who spends weekends comparing ETF’s, keeps an eye on crypto, and never misses an episode of Equity Mates, here’s one investment you may be overlooking – your super. MLC knows it might not seem as exciting as picking your next investment, but thanks to tax advantages and decades of compound growth, it could end up being one of the hardest working investments you own. See how your super could be working harder with MLC at mlc.com.au Disclaimer: Products issued by NULIS Nominees (Australia) Ltd as trustee of MLC Super Fund. General information only. Read the PDS & TMD available at mlc.com.au and consider if it’s right for you. ——— In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Get Started Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 12, 202621 min

How owning 27 ETFs at once taught Gav that less is more

Gav loves spending money. Watches, skincare, Apple products, travel - give him money and he’ll find something to spend it on. So when he discovered investing, he did what came naturally….he started collecting ETFs. At one point, he owned 27 of them. So how did he go from trying almost every investing app and collecting ETFs “like Pokémon cards” to believing that less is more? Gav joins Jess to unpack the mistakes he made as a new investor, how he’s simplified his approach and the system that lets him invest consistently (while still leaving plenty of room to spend.) Plus, they get into Gav’s decision to invest in geared ETFs and why he’s comfortable with the extra risk. For more regular updates from Jess’ investing journey, follow along on instagram at getstartedinvesting_ Chapters: 00:00:00 From Big Spender To Disciplined Investor 00:03:30 How Gav Caught The Investing Bug 00:06:19 Collecting ETFs Like Pokemon Cards 00:09:38 How 27 ETFs Became A Real Strategy 00:12:30 Why Less Is More With Investing 00:15:00 Building Wealth Through Consistency 00:18:00 How To Ignore The Investing Noise 00:19:51 Investing To Give Yourself Options Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— Thanks to Shopback for sponsoring this series. Want to get paid for shopping online? 💸 ShopBack gives you real Cashback on purchases you're already making, which you can then transfer into your bank account (or brokerage app!). Download the app here and use code GETSTARTED20 to get a $20 cashback bonus once you've earned your first $10! ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 10, 202618 min

Should I sell my Aussie ETF and just invest in Global Shares?

Australia or the world - where should you be investing? Jess has both Australian and global ETFs in her portfolio, but lately she’s been seeing more investors question whether Australian shares are worth holding at all…..especially when global markets have been performing so well. And she’s not the only one wondering. Community member Anand recently shifted his portfolio primarily into a global ETF and wants to know: what are the strongest reasons to still invest in Australia? Is going all-global a reasonable strategy? Does holding Australian shares actually make you more diversified? And are we overlooking Australia just because it hasn’t performed as well recently? Ren joins Jess to answer Anand’s question and help her decide whether the Australian ETF in her own portfolio still deserves its place. Also, you can now follow Jess’s journey & learnings more closely with regular updates on Instagram at getstartedinvesting_ Chapters: 00:00:00 Should You Go All In On Global ETFs? 00:02:00 Why Australian Shares Are Falling Behind 00:04:00 The Strongest Case For Going Global 00:07:43 Why Australia Still Deserves A Place 00:10:13 You Can't Predict The Next Winner 00:12:03 Why Index Investing Beats Stock Picking 00:13:21 The Real Benefit Of Franking Credits 00:14:27 Does Home Bias Actually Make Sense? 00:16:20 What True Diversification Really Means Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— Thanks to MLC for sponsoring this series and helping keep our content free. If you’re the type of person who spends weekends comparing ETF’s, keeps an eye on crypto, and never misses an episode of Equity Mates, here’s one investment you may be overlooking – your super. MLC knows it might not seem as exciting as picking your next investment, but thanks to tax advantages and decades of compound growth, it could end up being one of the hardest working investments you own. See how your super could be working harder with MLC at mlc.com.au Disclaimer: Products issued by NULIS Nominees (Australia) Ltd as trustee of MLC Super Fund. General information only. Read the PDS & TMD available at mlc.com.au and consider if it’s right for you. ——— In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Get Started Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 5, 202632 min

How Ally is balancing investing, buying her first home and having a baby

What would make you finally take control of your money? For 29-year-old marketer Ally, it was watching her mum navigate life after divorce. Seeing someone she loved suddenly have to learn how to manage money from scratch made Ally realise she never wanted to be in that position herself. So she taught herself. Through podcasts, books and hours of research, Ally built the confidence to start investing, buy her first home and prepare financially for her first baby - all without a background in finance. In this episode, Ally joins Jess to share how she overcame analysis paralysis, built an investment portfolio from scratch and the lessons she's learnt as her investing journey has evolved alongside life's biggest milestones. This is 'How I Got Started' a series on Get Started Investing. Every Thursday Jess sits down with a community member to hear the highs and lows of their journey to investing. These are real stories that we hope will give you confidence that investing is for anyone. P.S. In this episode, Jess and Ally discuss the question many homeowners face: Should you keep investing or focus on paying down your mortgage? After recording this conversation, Jess sat down with a financial adviser to unpack the pros and cons of both approaches. If you're asking yourself the same question, you can listen to that episode here . For more regular updates from Jess’ investing journey, follow along on instagram at getstartedinvesting_ Chapters: 00:00:00 Building A Simple Life And Strong Finances 00:05:05 The Family Experience That Changed Everything 00:09:19 Learning To Invest One Step At A Time 00:13:12 From Spare Cash To A Real Portfolio 00:18:49 Why She Paused Investing To Buy A Home 00:22:52 Saving For A Baby Without Losing Momentum 00:25:36 How They Manage Money As A Couple 00:28:53 The Biggest Lesson For New Investors 00:30:08 Investing For Freedom, Not Luxury Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Get Started Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 3, 202633 min

I have a mortgage now…should I stop investing?

Once you buy a house, where should your next dollar go? Should you build your offset account? Pay down your mortgage faster? Or keep investing? In this episode, financial adviser Sam Hunt from Shadforth joins Jess to unpack one of the biggest financial questions homeowners face. Using Jess's own situation as a real-life case study, they explore the decisions she's now facing after buying her first property. Jess and her partner recently purchased the home together, using equity from the sale of his previous property, and now share a 50/50 mortgage. It's Jess's first time owning a home, and together they're working through how to make the most of every spare dollar. Along the way, Sam explains how offset accounts really work, how much cash homeowners should keep on hand, and how financial advisers help clients decide between investing and paying down debt. Whether you've just bought your first home, you're thinking about buying, or you've had a mortgage for years, this episode will help you feel more confident about where your next dollar should go. Chapters: 00:00:00 Should You Invest Or Pay Off Your Mortgage? 00:02:00 Jess’s New Financial Game Plan 00:05:30 Why An Offset Account Can Beat Savings 00:10:00 Invest Or Attack The Mortgage? 00:15:55 Paying Down Your Home Loan First 00:19:57 The Case For Keeping Your Investments 00:22:06 Why Your Strategy Should Keep Changing 00:24:18 Finding The Right Balance For You 00:28:35 Interest Rates, Refinancing And Next Steps If you’d like to get in touch with Sam to discuss your own situation, you can do so here . Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here You can follow Jess’s journey further with regular updates on Instagram at getstartedinvesting_ Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— Thanks to MLC for sponsoring this series and helping keep our content free. If you’re the type of person who spends weekends comparing ETF’s, keeps an eye on crypto, and never misses an episode of Equity Mates, here’s one investment you may be overlooking – your super. MLC knows it might not seem as exciting as picking your next investment, but thanks to tax advantages and decades of compound growth, it could end up being one of the hardest working investments you own. See how your super could be working harder with MLC at mlc.com.au Disclaimer: Products issued by NULIS Nominees (Australia) Ltd as trustee of MLC Super Fund. General information only. Read the PDS & TMD available at mlc.com.au and consider if it’s right for you. ——— In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Get Started Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. The guest in this episode is authorised to provide financial advice under the Australian Financial Services Licence of Shadforth Financial Group Limited ABN 27 127 508 472 AFSL 318613. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

July 29, 202632 min

Why this MasterChef star wishes he'd started investing at 18

Most Aussies know Hayden from MasterChef. But away from the cameras, he's gone from growing up with a fear of debt to building businesses, backing founders and investing in property. In this episode, Hayden joins Jess to share how that transformation happened—from working at Woolworths as a teenager to discovering investing later than he wishes he had. He also explains why he's already started an ETF portfolio for his five-week-old daughter, Rosie, determined to give her the investing head start he never had. Talk about getting started early... time in the market, right? 😉 This is 'How I Got Started' a series on Get Started Investing. Every Thursday Jess sits down with a community member to hear the highs and lows of their journey to investing. These are real stories that we hope will give you confidence that investing is for anyone. Chapters: 00:00:00 From MasterChef To Million-Dollar Businesses 00:04:00 Why Hard Work Shaped His Money Mindset 00:09:02 Building A Business From Scratch 00:11:30 Backing Hard Fizz Before It Took Off 00:15:00 The Reality Of Investing In Businesses 00:19:00 Overcoming The Fear Of Property Investing 00:20:07 Investing For His Newborn Daughter 00:27:01 Why ETFs Are Not His Main Strategy 00:29:22 Building Wealth Without Chasing Retirement Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here For more regular updates from Jess’ investing journey, follow along on instagram at getstartedinvesting_ Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Get Started Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

July 27, 202630 min

What’s the the best way to invest in AI? A financial adviser teaches me.

Everyone says they want to invest in AI... but what should you actually buy? Do you buy Nvidia? An AI ETF? The Nasdaq? Or are you already getting AI exposure through the investments you own? After hearing about AI infrastructure and wondering whether she'd missed the semiconductor boom, Jess found herself asking the same question many beginner investors face: where do you even start? This week, Jess is joined by Owen Raszkiewicz, Financial Adviser at Rask and host of The Australian Finance Podcast, to unpack the different ways investors can get exposure to AI, helping you understand what you're really buying and how to choose the approach that's right for you. Plus, Owen answers a community question from Liam about adding AI exposure to a satellite portfolio. For more regular updates on Jess' journey, you can follow her on instagram at getstartedinvesting_ Chapters: 00:00:00 Where Should You Invest In AI? 00:02:30 You Already Own More AI Than You Think 00:09:22 Picking Your AI Bet Without Guessing 00:16:00 The Hidden Winners Behind AI Growth 00:21:28 Why Software Beats Hardware Over Time 00:27:27 How To Build An AI Portfolio That Lasts Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— MLC knows your super might not seem as exciting as picking your next investment, but thanks to tax advantages and decades of compound growth, it could end up being one of the hardest working investments you own. See how your super could be working harder with MLC at mlc.com.au Disclaimer: Products issued by NULIS Nominees (Australia) Ltd as trustee of MLC Super Fund. General information only. Read the PDS & TMD available at mlc.com.au and consider if it’s right for you. ——— In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Get Started Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

July 22, 202621 min

How this 24 year old turned a four year plan into $162,000

At 18 years old, in the middle of the pandemic, today’s guest gave herself 4 years to complete the following: Save 150K Graduate with two bachelors degrees Buy an investment property Build a share portfolio Secure a remote job Spoiler - she actually did it and has the portfolio to prove it. Today Jess learns how she got there and where she hopes investing will take her next. This is 'How I Got Started' a series on Get Started Investing. Every Thursday Jess sits down with a community member to hear the highs and lows of their journey to investing. These are real stories that we hope will give you confidence that investing is for anyone. Chapters: 00:00:00 She Set Five Life Changing Goals 00:03:21 The Moment Everything Changed 00:05:34 Turning Lockdown Into Opportunity 00:08:30 The Frugal Habits That Built $150K 00:11:31 From Risky Stock Picks To Smart ETFs 00:17:00 The Million Dollar Investing Plan Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Get Started Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

July 20, 202630 min

Should I replace my ETFs with the geared version?

To gear, or not to gear- that is the question... Geared ETFs have had a bit of a moment in the past few years. Plenty of popular ETFs such as NDQ, A200 and DHHF now have “geared” versions. But what does that mean? How do geared ETFs work? And if their long term performance is expected to be better- should you be buying them instead? Today Cam Gleeson, Senior Investment Strategist at Betashares, joins Jess to answer community member John’s question; how he should invest in the geared version of ETFs he already owns? Plus Jess walks though her portfolio and get’s Cam’s take on switching to G200 from A200 and GGBL from BGBL. Chapters: 00:00:00 Why Borrow To Buy Shares 00:02:03 What Gearing Is And Why Investors Use It 00:06:06 Inside A Geared ETF 00:08:30 Should You Switch Or Own Both 00:11:23 Can You Time The Market 00:12:30 Core And Satellite Strategies 00:15:35 How Geared ETFs Work Behind The Scenes 00:18:30 Costs Interest Rates And Fees 00:21:30 What Happens In Bull And Bear Markets 00:25:01 Should Beginners Use Gearing 00:27:43 Cam's Rules For Using Gearing Links mentioned in this episode: 📩 Sign up to the Get Started Investing newsletter here 📩 Share your investing story with us submit here 🎟️ FinFest tickets - Buy early bird tickets here Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. ——— In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Get Started Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. ——— Get Started Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice, and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If you are unsure, please speak to a financial professional. The hosts of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares group but maintains editorial independence. Equity Mates Media operates under Australian Financial Services Licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.