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FinOpsPod connects practitioners with the rest of the FinOps Foundation community. Real world practitioners will share their experiences and the Foundation team will share the latest news about the community. Learn more about the FinOps Foundation at www.finops.org.

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December 16, 202537 min

Benjamin van der Maas: Using AI to Scale FinOps

Episode 47 Benjamin van der Maas: Using AI to Scale FinOps Benjamin van der Maas discusses how his team is using AI to scale their FinOps efforts. Topics covered include the necessary groundwork for effective AI implementation, the importance of domain expertise, and how AI can streamline reporting and analysis. The conversation also touches on AI's role in sustainability and the potential challenges of relying on large language models (LLMs). Automating Anomaly Investigation with AI - YouTubeFinOps Certified: FinOps for AIBenjamin van der Maas | LinkedIn

October 22, 202530 min

Brad Payne: Integrating FinOps and Business Strategy

Episode 46 Brad Payne: Integrating FinOps and Business Strategy Brad Payne, who leads the FinOps team at PointClickCare, shares how his team tackled cloud cost challenges not by jumping straight into optimization — but by focusing first on allocation and unit economics. That shift helped them uncover how cloud costs connected to specific products, customers, and revenue — sparking deeper collaboration with finance, pricing and packaging, and product teams. This resulted in FinOps moving beyond infrastructure to influence real business decisions.FinOps Certified: FinOps for AIBrad Payne | LinkedIn

July 16, 202535 min

Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - Revisiting FinOps as Product, 3 Years Later

Episode 45 Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - Revisiting FinOps as Product, 3 Years Later Kim Wier & Ron Tatro return to share how their FinOps products have evolved over the last 3 years at Target. They share success and challenges they have had with forecasting both public and private clouds, the impact the introduction of AI has had, and how they provide cost, stability and tech debt information to over 5,000 developers. And they make it all sound approachable!FinOps as a Product - Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - YouTubeRon Tatro | LinkedInKim Wier | LinkedIn

February 17, 202536 min

Larry Advey - Leveraging FOCUS for Stakeholder Management

Episode 44 Larry Advey - Leveraging FOCUS for Stakeholder Management Larry Advey discusses the significance of standardizing FinOps nomenclature through the FOCUS (FinOps Cost and Usage Specification) project to streamline communication across multi-provider environments. Larry shares his insights on the impact of FOCUS in reducing confusion among stakeholders by creating a unified language for billing data. The episode also highlights Larry’s experiences from recent FinOps events, upcoming plans for FinOpsX, and the importance of engaging with the community for continuous improvement.00:00 Welcome to FinOpsPod01:25 January Recap and FinOpsX Planning06:28 Focus Project and Stakeholder Management09:36 The Role of a Focus Maintainer16:23 The Vision for Focus20:11 Exploring FOCUS Nomenclature21:09 Utilizing the FOCUS Sandbox21:32 Diving into Use Cases22:49 Navigating the Focus Website29:12 Engaging with the FinOps Community34:24 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsFinOps X 2025 - The Home of FinOpsFOCUS SandboxFOCUS™ - FinOps Open Cost & Usage SpecificationLarry Advey | LinkedIn

December 16, 202432 min

FinOpsPod Year End 2024

Episode 43 FinOpsPod Year End 2024 In this episode, hosts, Joe & Stacy, with special guest Sam Benson, highlight significant events like the successful FinOps X and FinOps X Europe conferences, community growth, and the evolution of FinOps practices. The episode wraps up with reflections on the past year's achievements and aspirations for 2025, encouraging practitioners to stay engaged and keep learning.00:00 Welcome to FinOpsPod!00:28 Meet the Hosts and Special Guest01:11 Year-End Reflections02:45 Sam's Role and Contributions05:49 Community Events and Highlights08:44 FinOps X and Memorable Moments10:18 The 'No Runners' Theme11:56 Adapting and Evolving in FinOps14:08 Is Rob a Master Gardener?15:58 Highlights from FinOpsX Europe18:05 FinOps Scopes and Expanding Roles20:05 Focus and Community Engagement22:47 Emerging Topics and AI25:38 Looking Forward to 202530:49 Closing Remarks and Holiday WishesFinOps X 2025 - The Home of FinOpsThe Scope of FinOps Extends Beyond Public Cloud

November 6, 202439 min

James Barney - The AI Episode

Episode 42 James Barney - The AI Episode James Barney discusses the complexities and nuances of applying FinOps principles to AI usage in the cloud, explores various models of AI consumption, such as SaaS and self-hosted solutions, and delves into the challenges of accurately tracking and managing AI costs. Insights are shared from James Barney's recently contributed paper on AI cost management, emphasizing the importance of understanding AI's impact on cloud expenditures and business value. The conversation also touches on the necessity of open dialogue within organizations and the potential for AI to enhance non-customer-facing processes. Practical advice is given on how to approach AI cost management conversations and the value of learning by doing.Note - views expressed by James are his alone and not those of his employer.03:59 Understanding AI Cost Structures05:38 FinOps Strategies for AI Workloads12:10 Balancing Innovation and Cost Control18:08 Tracking and Reporting AI Costs19:34 Understanding AI Workloads21:39 Guardrails for AI Usage22:45 The Role of Context in AI25:16 Politeness in AI Interactions28:03 Exploring AI Tokens31:35 Challenges in AI Cost Management35:41 Community Involvement in AIJames Barney | LinkedInCost Estimation of AI WorkloadsHow to Forecast AI Services Costs in CloudHow to Build a Generative AI Cost and Usage Tracker

October 3, 202435 min

Anderson Oliveira - Facing Career Challenges

Episode 41 Anderson Oliveira - Facing Career Challenges Anderson Oliveira shares his experience of losing his job as a FinOps Manager, how he stayed positive, and took his time to find his next opportunity. Lessons in this episode on community engagement and keeping the FinOps Principles in the forefront.FinOps Jobs - All the cloud financial management jobs in one placeAnderson Oliveira | LinkedInFinOps X Europe - Barcelona, Nov 11-14

August 31, 202437 min

Anthony Johnson & Brent Eubanks - Measuring for Success with Key Momentum Indicators

Episode 40 Anthony Johnson & Brent Eubanks - Measuring for Success with Key Momentum Indicators TJ & Brent Eubanks join Rob Martin to discuss their experience and lessons learned with how to use Key Performance Indicators. While KPIs are good for a moment in time, they learned the importance of making sure to measure progress - or momentum - towards organization success.Brent Eubanks ☁️ | LinkedInAnthony "TJ" Johnson | LinkedInFinOps KPIs

August 1, 202430 min

FinOpsPod Live - Day 2 of FinOps X 2024 - Community Lovefest!

Episode 39 FinOpsPod Live - Day 2 of FinOps X 2024 - Community Lovefest! If you aren't interested in feeling FinOps Community love, then this isn't the episode for you. Recorded at the end of Day 2, Stacy Joe and audience members go over their impressions from the conference. Highlights include discussion of the USS Midway party and keynotes, a wedding proposal, community appreciation, and a secret about Joe's career background that prepared him for FinOps.FinOps X Europe - Barcelona, Nov 11-14FinOps X ‘24 Day 2 KEYNOTE: American Express, FinOps Releases by Google Cloud, Microsoft, and AWS

July 10, 202434 min

FinOpsPod Live - Day 1 of FinOps X 2024

Episode 38 FinOpsPod Live - Day 1 of FinOps X 2024 Catch the vibes of FinOps X! Joe & Stacy review the experiences from Day 1 of the conference. Voices include: Tim O'Brien, Rob Martin, John from a Small Consultancy, Dann Berg, Karin Milkins, Anjali Oleksy and many more from the FinOps community!FinOps X 2024

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