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FinOpsPod connects practitioners with the rest of the FinOps Foundation community. Real world practitioners will share their experiences and the Foundation team will share the latest news about the community. Learn more about the FinOps Foundation at www.finops.org.

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October 23, 202611 min

CapEx: Cloud

Episode 49 CapEx: Cloud Part 1 of a two episode series on Capital Expenses. This episode focuses on the basics of CapEx and capitalizing cloud expense. It the most excitement you will ever feel while recapping accounting standards. Ends with a review of a real-life practitioner use case on capitalizing cloud expense. 00:00 Welcome And Setup 01:03 Accounting Disclaimer 01:56 Cloud And AI CapEx Debate 02:53 CapEx Basics Explained 05:09 Rules For Cloud Capitalization 07:06 Real World Case Recap 08:25 Three Step CapEx Process 09:59 Wrap Up And Next Episode Join the Tech Value Community

September 21, 202611 min

Advocating for Billing Features

Episode 48 Advocating for Billing Features Connecting two FinOps community call threads on getting SaaS vendors to improve billing data, featuring Mike Rosenberg of Nubank’s two-year push that led a major vendor to ship a requested billing capability in private preview. Helped by persistent, fact-based advocacy, networking with engineers, and renewal leverage. The episode also highlights a FinOpsX 2025 talk by Laurent Kiss and Priyanka Pandey (Delivery Hero) outlining four moves to drive vendor adoption of FOCUS format. 00:00 Welcome Back FinOps Pod 00:27 Mike’s Vendor Win Story 01:47 How He Worked the Process 03:11 Leverage and Business Case 05:04 Two Community Calls Connect 06:12 Delivery Hero Four Moves 07:31 Ask Precisely Not Just Small 08:21 Focus Versions Reality Check 09:29 Scale the Ask as Community 10:32 Before You Ask Check Support 10:51 Wrap Up and Call to Action Join the Tech Value Community Get Started with FOCUS Data Sets How to Work with Your SaaS Providers and Internal Stakeholders for Broad FOCUS™ Adoption Mike Rosenberg

December 16, 202537 min

Benjamin van der Maas: Using AI to Scale FinOps

Episode 47 Benjamin van der Maas: Using AI to Scale FinOps Benjamin van der Maas discusses how his team is using AI to scale their FinOps efforts. Topics covered include the necessary groundwork for effective AI implementation, the importance of domain expertise, and how AI can streamline reporting and analysis. The conversation also touches on AI's role in sustainability and the potential challenges of relying on large language models (LLMs). Automating Anomaly Investigation with AI - YouTube FinOps Certified: FinOps for AI Benjamin van der Maas | LinkedIn

October 22, 202530 min

Brad Payne: Integrating FinOps and Business Strategy

Episode 46 Brad Payne: Integrating FinOps and Business Strategy Brad Payne, who leads the FinOps team at PointClickCare, shares how his team tackled cloud cost challenges not by jumping straight into optimization — but by focusing first on allocation and unit economics. That shift helped them uncover how cloud costs connected to specific products, customers, and revenue — sparking deeper collaboration with finance, pricing and packaging, and product teams. This resulted in FinOps moving beyond infrastructure to influence real business decisions. FinOps Certified: FinOps for AI Brad Payne | LinkedIn

July 16, 202535 min

Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - Revisiting FinOps as Product, 3 Years Later

Episode 45 Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - Revisiting FinOps as Product, 3 Years Later Kim Wier & Ron Tatro return to share how their FinOps products have evolved over the last 3 years at Target. They share success and challenges they have had with forecasting both public and private clouds, the impact the introduction of AI has had, and how they provide cost, stability and tech debt information to over 5,000 developers. And they make it all sound approachable! FinOps as a Product - Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - YouTube Ron Tatro | LinkedIn Kim Wier | LinkedIn

February 17, 202536 min

Larry Advey - Leveraging FOCUS for Stakeholder Management

Episode 44 Larry Advey - Leveraging FOCUS for Stakeholder Management Larry Advey discusses the significance of standardizing FinOps nomenclature through the FOCUS (FinOps Cost and Usage Specification) project to streamline communication across multi-provider environments. Larry shares his insights on the impact of FOCUS in reducing confusion among stakeholders by creating a unified language for billing data. The episode also highlights Larry’s experiences from recent FinOps events, upcoming plans for FinOpsX, and the importance of engaging with the community for continuous improvement. 00:00 Welcome to FinOpsPod 01:25 January Recap and FinOpsX Planning 06:28 Focus Project and Stakeholder Management 09:36 The Role of a Focus Maintainer 16:23 The Vision for Focus 20:11 Exploring FOCUS Nomenclature 21:09 Utilizing the FOCUS Sandbox 21:32 Diving into Use Cases 22:49 Navigating the Focus Website 29:12 Engaging with the FinOps Community 34:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts FinOps X 2025 - The Home of FinOps FOCUS Sandbox FOCUS™ - FinOps Open Cost & Usage Specification Larry Advey | LinkedIn

December 16, 202432 min

FinOpsPod Year End 2024

Episode 43 FinOpsPod Year End 2024 In this episode, hosts, Joe & Stacy, with special guest Sam Benson, highlight significant events like the successful FinOps X and FinOps X Europe conferences, community growth, and the evolution of FinOps practices. The episode wraps up with reflections on the past year's achievements and aspirations for 2025, encouraging practitioners to stay engaged and keep learning. 00:00 Welcome to FinOpsPod! 00:28 Meet the Hosts and Special Guest 01:11 Year-End Reflections 02:45 Sam's Role and Contributions 05:49 Community Events and Highlights 08:44 FinOps X and Memorable Moments 10:18 The 'No Runners' Theme 11:56 Adapting and Evolving in FinOps 14:08 Is Rob a Master Gardener? 15:58 Highlights from FinOpsX Europe 18:05 FinOps Scopes and Expanding Roles 20:05 Focus and Community Engagement 22:47 Emerging Topics and AI 25:38 Looking Forward to 2025 30:49 Closing Remarks and Holiday Wishes FinOps X 2025 - The Home of FinOps The Scope of FinOps Extends Beyond Public Cloud

November 6, 202439 min

James Barney - The AI Episode

Episode 42 James Barney - The AI Episode James Barney discusses the complexities and nuances of applying FinOps principles to AI usage in the cloud, explores various models of AI consumption, such as SaaS and self-hosted solutions, and delves into the challenges of accurately tracking and managing AI costs. Insights are shared from James Barney's recently contributed paper on AI cost management, emphasizing the importance of understanding AI's impact on cloud expenditures and business value. The conversation also touches on the necessity of open dialogue within organizations and the potential for AI to enhance non-customer-facing processes. Practical advice is given on how to approach AI cost management conversations and the value of learning by doing. Note - views expressed by James are his alone and not those of his employer. 03:59 Understanding AI Cost Structures 05:38 FinOps Strategies for AI Workloads 12:10 Balancing Innovation and Cost Control 18:08 Tracking and Reporting AI Costs 19:34 Understanding AI Workloads 21:39 Guardrails for AI Usage 22:45 The Role of Context in AI 25:16 Politeness in AI Interactions 28:03 Exploring AI Tokens 31:35 Challenges in AI Cost Management 35:41 Community Involvement in AI James Barney | LinkedIn Cost Estimation of AI Workloads How to Forecast AI Services Costs in Cloud How to Build a Generative AI Cost and Usage Tracker

October 3, 202435 min

Anderson Oliveira - Facing Career Challenges

Episode 41 Anderson Oliveira - Facing Career Challenges Anderson Oliveira shares his experience of losing his job as a FinOps Manager, how he stayed positive, and took his time to find his next opportunity. Lessons in this episode on community engagement and keeping the FinOps Principles in the forefront. FinOps Jobs - All the cloud financial management jobs in one place Anderson Oliveira | LinkedIn FinOps X Europe - Barcelona, Nov 11-14

August 31, 202437 min

Anthony Johnson & Brent Eubanks - Measuring for Success with Key Momentum Indicators

Episode 40 Anthony Johnson & Brent Eubanks - Measuring for Success with Key Momentum Indicators TJ & Brent Eubanks join Rob Martin to discuss their experience and lessons learned with how to use Key Performance Indicators. While KPIs are good for a moment in time, they learned the importance of making sure to measure progress - or momentum - towards organization success. Brent Eubanks ☁️ | LinkedIn Anthony "TJ" Johnson | LinkedIn FinOps KPIs

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