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Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

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Jun 2026

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Welcome to "Do This, NOT That!" - your ultimate destination for mastering marketing insights. Join us as we dive deep into the world of marketing, unlocking powerful strategies and game-changing tactics that will revolutionize your approach. ㅤ Our podcast offers actionable takeaways and practical advice to supercharge your marketing game. Explore the power of decision-making, the art of nurturing contacts, and the influence of loss aversion in marketing. Discover how anchoring and positive psychology can elevate your campaigns to new heights. ㅤ Unravel the secrets of understanding your audience's minds and tapping into behavioral science principles. We guide you on a journey to marketing mastery, empowering you to make the right decisions and drive remarkable results. ㅤ Tune in to "Do This, NOT That!" to unlock your full marketing potential, stay ahead in the competitive landscape, and embark on this thrilling marketing adventure with us!

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June 16, 202611 min

What’s Up THIS WEEK?! 😳 How to Show Up in AI! NEW Email MUST DO! World Cup?⚽️🥅 | Ep. 524

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤBig shoutout to our sponsor, Knak!Marketers, you know the pain… You spend hours on a campaign, and then it gets stuck in review cycles and barely looks like what you started with.Knak makes it simple. Design emails and landing pages, collaborate, and launch - all in one place. No tool hopping, no messy handoffs, with AI built in to help you move faster.See how it all works, get started at knak.com/demoㅤThe link between ranking high on Google and getting cited in AI overviews has quietly fallen apart over the past year, and Jay Schwedelson has the numbers to prove just how fast. He lays out the small, almost boring tweaks that decide whether AI tools surface your content or skip right past it, then makes the case that your prettiest emails might be the ones working against you now. Stick around for a soccer confession and a book update with a genuinely good cause behind it.ㅤBest Moments:(00:42) Only 38% of pages cited in Google's AI overviews still rank in the top 10, down from 76% a year ago.(01:18) Put a date on everything you publish, because the AI tools are hunting hard for a recency signal.(02:15) Rewrite your headlines and page titles as questions so the LLMs actually pull them in.(03:33) Meltwater found 75% of LinkedIn AI citations come from personal profiles, not company pages.(05:33) Live text in the first 150 to 200 characters is becoming the new North Star for email.(09:14) His book hit number one new release on Amazon, with all proceeds going to cancer research.

June 15, 202612 min

SPECIAL SERIES ==> What 50,000 Bees Taught Me About Marketing 🐝 <== | BATHROOM Break #112 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤTurns out the fastest way to get over flinching at every bug at the dinner table is to suit up and stand in a cloud of fifty thousand bees, which is roughly the same energy Daniel Murray and Jay Schwedelson bring to email strategy. The real payoff here is a tactic most marketers are too nervous to run: hitting your database twice in a single day. Stick around for why the angry opt-outs are worth it, and the humbling reminder that almost nobody remembers your messaging as well as you think they do.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray’s newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(01:33) Jay suits up in a hazmat suit around 50,000 bees just to stop swatting at dinner(03:20) The aggressive play most people swear they could never run, two email sends to the same database in one day(04:15) Stacking urgency across two sends pushes conversions up more than thirty-five percent(06:33) A book launch nobody noticed, even the friend who follows everything Jay does(07:31) Why repeating the same message beats inventing a new one every time(08:27) When in doubt, send them out, and when in doubt, opt them out

June 11, 202619 min

Most brands only use 30% of what their marketing tools can actually do!!! SPECIAL GUEST!! Alex Conners from Wunderkind 🎯 It Was NEVER the Tools | Ep. 522

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤConnect with Alexandra Conners on LinkedIn, and see what her team is building at wunderkind.co.ㅤEvery martech platform seems to be buying up every other one right now, each promising to become the single tool that finally does everything. Jay Schwedelson gets Alex Conners of Wunderkind to pressure-test that idea, and her take is refreshingly blunt: the all-in-one promise is mostly a mirage, and your real edge was never sitting in the stack to begin with. What she says is actually driving results now might change how you look at your next renewal.ㅤBest Moments:(02:20) Most brands use only about 30 percent of what their marketing tools can actually do(03:46) Why a platform's new acquisition is really just negotiation leverage with your CFO(06:04) The right martech pick has less to do with your industry than your team's skill set(07:17) Customer acquisition costs jumped 222 percent and the buying journey keeps getting longer(10:30) The average enterprise is quietly running 91 marketing tools, and the risk that creates(12:05) A plain-English breakdown of what Wunderkind actually does with your anonymous site visitors

June 9, 20268 min

What’s Up THIS WEEK?! HUGE Email Change! LinkedIn Big News! MY BOOK!! | Ep. 521

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤTurns out one of the email "best practices" you have probably been told to follow for years might be quietly working against your list. Recording from the road this week, Jay Schwedelson makes the case that confirmed opt-in is more than halfway to dead, and that the spam-complaint logic everyone repeats about it is actually backward. If you have ever asked a new subscriber to click a confirmation link, this one is worth a few minutes.ㅤBest Moments:(00:33) LinkedIn rolled out free in-network versus out-of-network reach data on every post, no premium account required(02:00) Confirmed opt-in is fading fast, with usage down more than 45 percent year over year(03:33) The myth gets busted: lists built on double opt-in actually draw higher spam complaints, not fewer(04:15) Reddit just added video replies, opening a fresh way to reach its billion-plus monthly users(05:00) Jay's new book "Stupider People Have Done It" is out, with all author proceeds going to cancer research

June 8, 202611 min

SPECIAL SERIES ==> 🚨 The VIPs Already Hiding In Your Database <== | BATHROOM Break #111 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That

Most teams roll out the VIP treatment for anyone who already swiped a card, then quietly ignore the people circling the website five times in a week. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray make the case that your loudest buying signals are sitting in segments you probably never bothered to build, hiding in plain sight while you fuss over the folks who already converted. There is also a detour into bikini-store career advice and the structural horrors of the Rhode Island accent, so adjust your expectations accordingly.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray’s newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(02:00) The VIP segments already sitting in your database that you keep sleeping on(02:40) Why pain-point segmentation beats another round of lead scoring(03:19) The argument for in-person events being the strongest intent signal you have(04:00) Five site visits or eight email clicks is nobody's accident(05:27) Lifetime value of audience deserves as much love as lifetime value of customers(06:37) How brands quietly torch loyalty by only reaching out at renewal time(07:15) The dedicated send you owe subscribers who have stuck around five years

June 4, 202610 min

NEW: Ultimate Subject Line Test Ideas🫨Jay&apos;s SCOOP | Ep. 519

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤMost of us figure we've already tried every subject line trick worth trying, which is exactly what makes this batch so annoying. Jay Schwedelson runs through a pile of tactics that sound too dumb to work, like dropping a period after every word or dressing up a subject line as a calendar invite, except the open rates keep climbing anyway. Stick around for the strangely strong hill he's willing to die on involving coworkers, swimming pools, and dance floors.ㅤBest Moments:(01:20) Why a subject line that reads like a calendar invite is lifting opens by 28%.(02:15) The bracketed newsletter trick everyone abandoned, back from the dead and working again.(03:43) Opening a subject line with And or But to trigger a different kind of curiosity.(04:15) A period. After. Every. Word. And the quiet drama it stirs up.(04:46) Dropping next month into your subject line two weeks early, and why people bite.(06:00) Jay's deeply held refusal to see work people in bathing suits or on a dance floor.

June 2, 20268 min

What’s Up THIS WEEK?! AI Tip to SHOWING Up ➕ Instagram BIG Change 🔥 | Ep. 518

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤEver asked an AI tool to explain your own company and cringed at how wrong it got things? This week there's a genuinely simple fix for that, and Jay Schwedelson lays it out in a way that turns those AI answers into a ready-made content plan. He somehow gets there by way of a hospital collab and a four-dollar Instagram upgrade he's weirdly excited about, which tells you everything about how this one flows.ㅤBest Moments:(00:16) Disney teams up with Philips to surround kids with ambient Disney characters during their MRIs(01:36) The gut-punch stat, 88 percent of CMOs are getting grilled on AI visibility while most have no plan(02:06) Most marketers have already caught AI describing their company completely wrong(03:40) Ask all four AI tools the same question, then build content around the answers they all share(04:52) Meta's new Instagram add-on lets your stories outlive the 24-hour cutoff, and Jay thinks it's worth it(06:45) The Eventastic pitch arrives with DJs, a cannonball guy, and a Taylor Swift dance contest

June 1, 202613 min

SPECIAL SERIES ==>Webinar Registration and Show Up SECRETS!! <== | BATHROOM Break #110 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤEver caught yourself snapping at ChatGPT when it just won't get something right? Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray get into exactly how (un)kind they are to their AI tools, then swing into the small webinar habits quietly tanking everyone's show-up rates. It's equal parts petty and practical, and the live-only advice alone earns the ten minutes.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray’s newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(01:53) Jay confesses he's relentlessly rude to AI and explains why yelling never actually helps(02:47) The hidden environmental cost of being polite to ChatGPT(03:48) The webinar title mistake that kills curiosity before anyone signs up(06:51) Why a serialized, same-time webinar turns it into a show people come back to(07:16) Two day-of reminder emails and the 400% jump that comes from live attendanceㅤ(09:06) Holding on-demand hostage for 30 days to force people to show up live

May 29, 202621 min

Why Your AI Still Sounds Like a ROBOT 🤖 SPECIAL GUEST! RingCentral&apos;s Kristen Koenig | Ep. 516

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤConnect with Kristen on LinkedIn and visit ringcentral.com to see what they're building with AI across voice, video, and messaging.ㅤMost marketers are using AI to shout louder. Kristen Koenig, who leads AI and Collaboration go-to-market at RingCentral, thinks the smarter move is using it to listen better. She's back with Jay Schwedelson to unpack what most marketers are getting wrong about AI, why voice is having a renaissance, and what meetings will actually feel like three years from now.ㅤBest Moments:(01:46) Why right now is a renaissance moment for marketers and communicators(02:39) The fix for AI that sounds like a robot starts with feeding it your real voice(04:35) The biggest thing most marketers are getting wrong with AI(06:49) More content, worse quality, and why chasing volume is a trap(11:43) Why companies are so AI-obsessed, they're forgetting to improve the actual mothership product(13:39) What voice and video will actually feel like in the next three years

May 28, 202610 min

STOP Making BORING Marketing Right Now 🚫 Jay&apos;s SCOOP | Ep. 515

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contactㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out June 9, 2026).All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206ㅤSubscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletterㅤRegister for Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.comㅤRegister for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.comㅤConnect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/askㅤLeave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!ㅤEver wonder why your slick, AI-polished marketing content gets crickets while someone's shaky phone clip from a hallway racks up engagement? Jay Schwedelson breaks down the lo-fi content formats actually winning right now, with hard numbers on why behind-the-scenes videos, walking selfies, and even airport rants outperform the polished stuff. Stick around for the chaos of prepping Eventastic, which somehow involves a Taylor Swift impersonator, a mouth guard game, and a guy being shot out of a cannon.ㅤBest Moments:(00:16) Why expensive, AI-perfect marketing now reads as more boring than wallpaper(01:30) Behind-the-scenes video drives 200% higher engagement on LinkedIn than any other format(02:45) The red play button trick that lifts email click-through rates by 34%(03:30) Walking selfies pull 49% higher completion on LinkedIn and 57% on Instagram(04:14) Desk drive-bys and one-take mistake clips that beat any polished asset(05:15) Why airport walk-and-talks turn boring B2B content into something humans actually watch(06:30) The behind-the-scenes panic of dry-running the Fate of Ophelia dance for Eventastic

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