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The Demand Podcast is for B2B SaaS marketers & demand gen marketers looking for practical advice without the fluff. Join us as we interview leaders in marketing from around the world to gain a deeper understanding of how other B2B SaaS brands are creating and capturing demand.

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October 27, 202633 min

EP 60 - The Credit Game Nobody Wins with Nick Turner @ Dreamdata

Every revenue team has had the argument. Marketing says they sourced it. Sales says they sourced it. The CRM has one field, one answer, and neither side trusts the number. What looks like a reporting problem is usually something deeper — a structural conflict baked into how teams are measured, compensated, and held accountable. Nick Turner from Dreamdata works at the intersection of this problem every day. Dreamdata is a B2B revenue attribution platform built to give go-to-market teams a clearer picture of how pipeline actually forms across long, multi-touch buying journeys. Nick brings a practitioner's view on why the attribution fight persists, what it quietly costs companies who let it fester, and where the current model breaks down most visibly. In this episode, we get into the mechanics of the fight — why comp structures reinforce it, why better tooling does not automatically end it, and what it would actually take for sales and marketing to stop competing over credit and start competing for revenue together.

October 7, 2026Episode 5953 min

EP 59 - The Death of the SDR & Rise of AI with Liam Collins @ Instantly.ai

Sales teams have been stuck in the same operational loop for years. Reps spend the majority of their time on research, list building, and administrative work instead of selling. Most organizations have accepted this as normal. The question is whether AI is finally changing the math or just adding more tools to a broken system. Liam Collins from Instantly.ai joins the show to break down where AI is actually delivering in the sales process versus where the hype is outrunning reality. He brings a practitioner's view of what it takes to build modern GTM systems, from autonomous agents that handle full workflows to no-code tools that put that power in the hands of business operators without engineering support. This episode covers what the shift toward GTM Engineering means for revenue teams, how the best salespeople are evolving from prospectors into system designers, and what a leaner, more automated go-to-market organization looks like in practice.

September 21, 2026Episode 5858 min

EP 58 - How Fibbler Reached $1M ARR with Adam Holmgren @ Fibbler

Most B2B attribution tools are built for enterprise buyers with large budgets, long sales cycles, and a dedicated ops team to hold it all together. The result is a market where smaller and mid-market SaaS companies running serious LinkedIn programs have had to either overpay, underinvest, or work around tools that were never designed for them. Adam Holmgren is the co-founder of Fibbler, an attribution tool for marketing teams. Rather than going after the same enterprise buyers as the incumbents, Adam and his team made a deliberate bet on product-led growth and transactional pricing in a market where competitors anchored deals at north of $10k ACV. That decision shaped everything from the first feature they built to their approach to early customer research. In this episode, Adam walks through how the idea for Fibbler was validated, why LinkedIn pipeline influence was the first and only focus before anything else was added, and what it actually looks like to build GTM strategy around a segment your competitors have largely ignored.

September 14, 202651 min

EP 57 - Your Highest-Traffic Channel Might Be Your Worst Channel with Jamie Pagan @ Leadfeeder

Most marketing teams are optimizing for the wrong thing. Traffic looks good in a dashboard, but it tells you almost nothing about whether the right companies are finding you, engaging with your content, or moving toward a buying decision. The obsession with volume has pushed marketers toward channels that are easy to measure and away from channels that actually influence pipeline. Jamie Pagan from Leadfeeder joins the show to challenge how B2B SaaS marketers evaluate channel performance. The conversation centers on a deceptively simple framework: there is a difference between being present in a channel and being visible to the buyers who matter. Most teams are doing the former and calling it demand generation. In this episode, we get into how to judge any channel using three signals: engagement, intent, and ICP fit. We walk through a real example in which a small channel outperformed one that generated 80 times more traffic. And we get into how AI tools like the Leadfeeder MCP, paired with Claude, are changing the way marketers can actually interrogate their data, moving from static dashboards to real conversations with the numbers.

September 14, 2026Episode 5646 min

EP 56 - ABM vs. Demand Gen, Is There a Difference? with Tyler Pleiss @ Sphera

Most B2B SaaS marketing teams say they run ABM. Very few actually do. The line between demand gen and ABM has blurred for over a decade, partly because vendors had a financial interest in keeping it that way, and partly because treating ABM as a targeted campaign is easier than treating it as a business strategy. The result is many small account lists dressed up as strategic programs with nothing underneath. This episode explains what that distinction means in practice. The conversation covers how a real ABM program starts with a business objective, not a platform, and why that changes who owns it, who funds it, and what it can actually accomplish. Tyler Pleiss brings a practitioner perspective on where these motions break down and what it costs companies when they get the framing wrong. Listeners will come away with a clearer framework for deciding which motion fits their current situation, how to structure the internal conversation around ABM ownership, and what to look for when a program has drifted from strategy back into campaign mode.

June 10, 2026Episode 5557 min

EP 55 - Why Your ABM Strategy Might Be Failing with Andrei Zinkevich @ Fullfunnel.io

ABM was supposed to fix the waste in B2B marketing. And when it's done right, it does. The problem is that most teams aren't doing it right, and deep down, they already know it. Lists of target accounts that sales never bought into. Intent data subscriptions that surface the same signals every competitor is already acting on. Coordinated campaigns that look impressive in a deck but never quite produce the pipeline they promised. These aren't signs that ABM doesn't work. There are signs that the strategy got watered down somewhere between the whiteboard and execution. Andrei Zinkevich has spent years working with B2B SaaS teams on full-funnel demand generation and ABM strategy. He's seen both ends of the spectrum: programs that quietly burn budget for months while leadership reverse-engineers metrics to justify the spend, and programs that get it right by making a few uncomfortable changes first. His view is clear: the strategy isn't the problem. The implementation usually is. In this episode, we get into the hard questions. Is intent data creating smarter outreach or just faster spam? Are companies confusing account volume with strategic focus? And if ABM requires true sales and marketing alignment, which most organizations don't have, what has to change before the rest of it can work?

September 22, 2025Episode 5443 min

EP 54 - How Spellbook Pivoted and 20x'd since Q1 2023 with Kurt Dunphy @ Spellbook

In this episode of Demand, host Jonathan Bland sits down with Kurt Dunphy, the driving force behind Spellbook - the AI-powered legal companion that's revolutionizing how commercial lawyers work. Kurt shares the remarkable story of how Spellbook achieved 20x growth since Q1 2023 through a strategic pivot in their approach to AI and branding. Discover how Spellbook transformed from a promising legal tech solution into an indispensable AI companion for commercial lawyers worldwide. Kurt candidly discusses the challenges of aligning his team during the pivot, the stress of making bold strategic decisions, and the unexpected wins that followed. He reveals the moment they realized a pivot was necessary and the uncommon insights gained along the way. For B2B marketing leaders and growth professionals, this episode offers valuable lessons in: - Recognizing and acting on market signals that demand strategic shifts - Managing team dynamics during major pivots - Scaling growth through precise positioning and messaging - Leveraging AI trends to accelerate market penetration - Building and maintaining momentum after a successful pivot

June 26, 2025Episode 5350 min

EP 53 - How B2B Brand Can Grow on LinkedIn with Alex Boyd @ Aware

In this episode of Demand, host Jonathan Bland sits down with Alex Boyd, founder of Aware, to tackle the evolving landscape of LinkedIn growth for B2B brands. As organic reach continues to decline and AI-generated content floods feeds, Alex shares battle-tested strategies for maintaining authenticity and driving meaningful engagement. Whether you're a Marketing Manager trying to scale your company's presence or a CMO looking to maximize your team's social selling efforts, this episode delivers actionable insights on: - Building a standout personal brand that cuts through the noise - Leveraging AI tools without sacrificing authenticity - Tactics for maintaining engagement despite algorithm changes - Converting social presence into pipeline opportunities - Creating content that resonates with decision-makers Alex brings unique expertise as the founder of Aware, a LinkedIn engagement and analytics platform helping B2B brands grow with 70% less effort. He shares real examples of how top performers are adapting their strategies to thrive in today's LinkedIn environment.

June 23, 2025Episode 5236 min

EP 52 - How to Launch a Brand Marketing Campaign with Alex Mospanyuk @ Luminous

Join Jonathan Bland on this episode of Demand as he sits down with Alex Mospanyuk from Luminous to unpack their $250k brand marketing campaign. As the inventory management space becomes increasingly crowded, discover how Luminous broke through the noise with a strategic approach to brand storytelling. In this value-packed conversation, Alex reveals the behind-the-scenes journey of conceptualizing and executing a high-impact brand campaign. From establishing clear messaging objectives to navigating on-set challenges, you'll get an unfiltered look at what it takes to create content that resonates with B2B audiences. Key Discussion Points: - Strategic reasoning behind major brand investment - Campaign goal setting and messaging development - Essential pre-production preparation steps - Content distribution strategy across channels

May 5, 2025Episode 5154 min

EP 51 - Don’t Over-Index on Performance Marketing with Haley Pierce @ The B2B Institute

In this episode of Demand, host Jonathan Bland sits down with Haley Pierce from The B2B Institute to tackle one of the biggest challenges facing small B2B SaaS brands today: striking the perfect balance between brand building and performance marketing. Jonathan discusses how emerging SaaS companies can compete effectively against larger players. He challenges conventional wisdom about B2B marketing, exploring why the 95-5 rule matters for companies of all sizes and how small brands can leverage it. Throughout the conversation, Jonathan and Haley dive deep into surprising learnings from working with smaller B2B brands, the critical importance of marketing to future buyers, and practical strategies for getting on the coveted day-one consideration list. They explore creative approaches that help brands become memorable without breaking the bank.

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