DataFramed

Hosted by DataCamp

Technology Business EducationInterviews guests

Website RSS feed

Episodes

300

Latest episode

Oct 2026

Language

About the show

Welcome to DataFramed, a weekly podcast exploring how artificial intelligence and data are changing the world around us. On this show, we invite data & AI leaders at the forefront of the data revolution to share their insights and experiences into how they lead the charge in this era of AI. Whether you're a beginner looking to gain insights into a career in data & AI, a practitioner needing to stay up-to-date on the latest tools and trends, or a leader looking to transform how your organization uses data & AI, there's something here for everyone. Join host Richie Cotton as he delves into the stories and ideas that are shaping the future of data. Subscribe to the show and tune in to the latest episode on the feed below.

Listen to episodes

60 recent

October 26, 202653 min

#384 Is the Cloud Over? | Sergio Gago, CTO at Cloudera

AI agents are only as useful as the data they can reach, and most company data is scattered across clouds, data centers, and legacy systems. Giving agents access is easy to get wrong, especially when the data includes salaries, customer records, or financial results. That's why governance, permissions, and audit trails are becoming the main bottleneck for getting agents into production. How do you give an agent the right access without exposing sensitive information? Who owns that job? And do traditional ideas like data fabrics and data meshes still hold up? Sergio Gago is the CTO at Cloudera. He previously held senior roles at Moody's Analytics, most recently as managing director of AI/ML and quantum, and was CTO of Rakuten's Spanish operations and of digital publishing company Zinio. In the episode, Richie and Sergio explore hybrid infrastructure for AI, choosing between cloud, neo clouds and on-premise, data fabrics and governance for agents, why agents need data access, the changing role of data teams, ephemeral dashboards, skills for engineers, sovereign AI, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: • Cloudera: The Great AI Rearchitecture report • Thoughtworks: Core principles of data mesh • Cloudera Unified Data Fabric • Apache Ranger • OpenClaw explained • Trino • Connect with Sergio • AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work • Related Episode: AI Agents Are the New Shadow IT (And Your Governance Isn't Ready) with Stijn Christiaens, Chief Data Citizen at Collibra New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

October 19, 20261 hr 5 min

#383 How to Coordinate Intelligence Across Teams & Agents | Vijoy Pandey, SVP of Outshift at Cisco

AI agents are getting easier to build and connect. Open standards now let them discover each other, pass messages and use shared tools. But connecting agents is not the same as getting them to work toward the same goal, and research on multi-agent systems shows that misalignment grows with every agent you add. For professionals deploying agents, this shows up as handoffs that fail and results that don’t add up, even when each agent is right on its own. How do agents agree on what a task means? What does a team need in place before adding more agents? And how do you know the combined result is better? Vijoy Pandey is SVP and GM of Outshift by Cisco, the company’s incubation engine for emerging technologies such as agentic AI and quantum networking. He has spent about three decades building distributed infrastructure at Google, IBM and startups, holds a PhD in Computer Science from UC Davis, and has filed more than 80 patents. In the episode, Richie and Vijoy explore the cognitive revolution and what it means for agents, the Internet of Cognition, coordination failures in multi-agent systems, agent protocols and guardrails, task-based access control, tiny teams with tokens (T3), organizational memory and context leaders, measuring whether agents are actually better, emergent collective intelligence, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: AGNTCY: open-source agent connectivity project Model Context Protocol (MCP) and Agent2Agent protocol (A2A) Outshift: Internet of Cognition Coherent Cognition, Vijoy’s Substack Michael Tomasello: A Natural History of Human Thinking Michael Levin: talks and interviews Connect with Vijoy AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work Related Episode: AI Agents Are the New Shadow IT (And Your Governance Isn’t Ready) with Stijn Christiaens, CEO at Collibra New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

October 15, 202631 min

#382 What DataCamp's Learner Data Says About Learning | Pieter Moors, Lead Data Scientist at DataCamp

Career goals in data have shifted quickly. Data scientist was long the default target, but AI engineer has appeared from almost nowhere, and companies are moving training toward AI literacy, agents, and prompt engineering. Certifications are becoming a common way to prove these skills, while many people wonder whether learning to code still matters when AI can write it for them. What are people choosing to learn right now? Which fundamentals still hold up? How do you prepare for a certification exam? And is the fear of AI replacing technical roles showing up in what people actually study? Pieter Moors is the Lead Data Scientist at DataCamp, where he works with the company's learner data to understand how people learn and how that behavior changes over time. He is part of DataCamp's new Data Insights program, which shares findings from that data with the world every couple of weeks. In the episode, Richie and Pieter explore what DataCamp's own learner data reveals, when enterprise and individual learners study, how the World Cup disrupted study time, why short regular sessions and streaks build habits, how AI tutors relate to certification pass rates, the shift from data scientist to AI engineer, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: Connect with Pieter DataCamp AI Tutor DataCamp Certifications Introduction to Python course DataCamp AI Assistant DataCamp mobile app DataCamp subreddit AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work Related Episode: The Best Moments from RADAR 11x: AI, Jobs, Agents and Skills New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

October 12, 202650 min

#381 Escaping the AI Hiring Doom Loop with Daniel Chait, CEO & Ophir Samson, Head of Voice AI at Greenhouse

Most hiring decisions still come down to gut feel, and gut feel is full of blind spots — a favorite school, a firm handshake, the type of coffee someone carries into the room. As AI reshapes recruiting, the industry is being forced to ask whether decisions can be made on evidence instead of instinct. That means defining what actually predicts success in a role, testing every candidate against the same criteria, and being able to show the reasoning behind a hiring call rather than just a hunch. For anyone building a team, the question isn't whether bias exists — it's whether your process is built to catch it before it shapes who gets hired. Daniel Chait is the co-founder and CEO of Greenhouse, the hiring software used by tens of thousands of companies to run structured, data-driven hiring processes. Ophir Samson is Greenhouse's Head of Voice AI, leading the team following Greenhouse's acquisition of Ezra AI Labs, the voice AI interviewing company he founded. In the episode, Richie, Daniel, and Ophir explore the flood of AI-generated resumes drowning both job seekers and recruiters, how Voice AI interviews let candidates showcase themselves beyond a resume, structured hiring and scorecards for fairer decisions, bias audits and anti-cheat safeguards, EU AI Act compliance, and measuring success through pass-through rates and time savings, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: • Zapier <> Greenhouse: Conversational Application Voice AI • Paradigm Strategy • Anthropic • Pipecat on GitHub • Daily • Are Emily and Greg More Employable Than Lakisha and Jamal? (AEA) • Connect with Daniel: LinkedIn • Connect with Ophir: LinkedIn • AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work • Related Episode: How to Have a Machine Learning Career in 2026 New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

October 7, 202648 min

#380 The Best Moments from RADAR 11x: AI, Jobs, Agents and Skills

A job title can stay the same while the work underneath it changes completely. That idea ran through RADAR 11x, our online conference, and this recap keeps the best moments from four of the day's eight sessions. You will hear how to sort your tasks between you and AI, which durable skills hold their value, why pilots stall before production, and how software teams work with coding agents. Missed RADAR? Start here. Which tasks should AI take over? Which skills deserve your next hour of learning? Featured in this recap: Ben Zweig, CEO at Revelio Labs; Nicole Immorlica, Professor at Yale University and Senior Principal Researcher at Microsoft; Margaret Beier, Professor at Rice University; Matt Jones, EVP of Strategy at Cielo Talent; Krishnan Hariharan, CTO and VP of Engineering for Forge at Honeywell; Satesh Sonti, Principal Specialist Solutions Architect at AWS; Laurent Gil, President and co-founder at Cast AI; Joao Moura, CEO at CrewAI; Ali Arsanjani, Senior Director of Applied AI Engineering at Google; and DataCamp co-founders Jonathan Cornelissen (CEO) and Martijn Theuwissen (COO). In the episode, Richie rounds up the best moments from RADAR 11x, exploring whether AI will take your job, the durable skills worth building, why AI pilots stall, cutting token costs, how software teams work with agents, the future of the data analyst role, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: • We Are Not Machines (Sarah O'Connor) • Jevons paradox • AI-Driven Development Life Cycle (AI-DLC) (AWS) • The State of AI Careers 2026 (DataCamp) • Watch on demand: Humans On The Loop • Watch on demand: Don't Waste Your Time on AI Pilots • Watch on demand: The New Developer Workflow • Watch on demand: Closing and AMA • RADAR 11x event page • AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work • Related Episode: Data-Driven Workforce Analytics with Ben Zweig, CEO at Revelio Labs New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

September 28, 202647 min

#379 The Secrets of Deploying AI in Production | Sumti Jairath, Chief Architect at SambaNova

AI agents are moving from demos into production, but many teams run into the same wall: responses that take too long and cost too much. As models grow bigger and reason through more steps before answering, every chained agent adds delay, and that adds up fast at scale. For data and AI professionals, this raises a practical question: how do you pick a model and an inference platform that keeps a multi-agent workflow fast without blowing the budget? And underneath that choice sits a bigger one — how much of the AI stack, from chips to software, should a company actually control? Sumti Jairath is Chief Architect at SambaNova Systems, where he's focused on machine learning, big data analytics, and software-defined hardware since 2017. Before that, he spent close to eight years as a Senior Hardware Architect at Oracle working on hardware acceleration for machine learning and data analytics, and earlier held processor and server design roles at Hewlett Packard and Sun Microsystems. He holds a B.Tech in Electronics and Communication Engineering from the National Institute of Technology, Kurukshetra. In the episode, Richie and Sumti explore why AI agents are slow and expensive, the architecture behind faster inference, choosing the right model and platform for a task, open-source models and sovereign AI, the full AI infrastructure stack, power efficiency, the AI data center debate, career paths in AI infrastructure, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: • NVIDIA's Groq acquisition, announced around GTC • Chris Olah, Anthropic • Anthropic and OpenAI's coding-agent-driven revenue growth • Ollama • Apple Mac mini • SambaNova careers • Connect with Sumti • AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work • Related Episode: From City Sewers to Sovereign AI with Russ Wilcox, CEO at ArtifexAI New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

September 21, 202650 min

#378 The Data Engine for AI with Ledion Bitincka, CTO at Cribl & Nikhil Mungel, Head of AI R&D at Cribl

As agents take over more of the actual coding, the nature of technical work is shifting from producing software to judging it. Engineers increasingly spend their time specifying what should be built and then checking whether an agent's output actually solved the problem, rather than writing every line themselves. That changes what skills matter for a career in data and software: problem-solving and evaluation start to outweigh knowing today's specific tools or syntax. It also raises a harder question for teams — if agents can generate work this fast, how do you know which of it is actually worth shipping? Ledion Bitincka is Co-Founder and CTO of Cribl, where he leads the engineering organization with a first-principles approach to product delivery. Before Cribl, he was an Advanced Development Architect at Splunk, where he worked on Search-Time Schema, Hunk, and SmartStore, and before that founded Triangulus Communications. Nikhil Mungel is Head of AI R&D at Cribl, based in San Francisco, with over 15 years building distributed systems and AI teams at companies including Substack, Splunk, and ThoughtWorks — he now leads teams building LLM-powered systems for IT and security data. In the episode, Richie, Ledion, and Nikhil explore AI agent disasters and cost shocks, software telemetry fundamentals, using agents to analyze telemetry, AI-powered software factories, the shift from knowledge work to judgment work, skills for the agentic era, avoiding runaway AI spend, and measuring product value through growth metrics, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: • Jocko Willink's book, Leadership Strategy and Tactics: A Field Manual • Cribl • Cribl AI (Copilot) • Claude Code • AWS Graviton • NVIDIA • Connect with Ledion: LinkedIn • Connect with Nikhil: LinkedIn • AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work • Related Episode: AI Agents at Work: What Actually Breaks (and How to Fix It) New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

September 14, 202638 min

#377 The Algorithm for Hypergrowth with Jon McNeill, CEO at DVx Ventures & Former President at Tesla

Hypergrowth companies rarely scale on strategy alone — they scale on how fast decisions get made and how much risk employees feel safe taking. A recurring idea in high-growth environments is treating decisions differently depending on whether they're reversible, and rewarding people for making an impact rather than simply avoiding mistakes. For managers and individual contributors alike, that shift changes what "good work" looks like day to day. Which of your team's decisions actually need a leader's sign-off, and which ones would move faster if people just tried something and adjusted? Jon McNeill is CEO and co-founder of DVx Ventures, a venture studio that has launched 12 companies. He previously served as President at Tesla, where revenue grew from $2B to $20B in 30 months, and as COO at Lyft through its IPO. A serial entrepreneur, he's founded and sold six companies, sits on the boards of Lululemon and Asurion, and wrote The Algorithm: The Hypergrowth Formula that Transformed Tesla, Lululemon, General Motors and SpaceX . In the episode, Richie and Jon explore the algorithm behind Tesla's 10X hypergrowth, why automation should always come last, how to find and delete unnecessary process steps, building a culture of curiosity and urgency, one-way vs. two-way door decisions, small-team organizational design, changing the currency of promotion, and running effective meetings, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: • The Algorithm: The Hypergrowth Formula that Transformed Tesla, Lululemon, General Motors and SpaceX by Jon McNeill • Incorruptible by Eric Ries • Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara • Eleven Madison Park • Jensen Huang on LinkedIn • Karim Bousta on LinkedIn • Connect with Jon • AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work • Related Episode: How to Thrive in a World of Continuous Transformation New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

September 7, 202642 min

#376 Rethinking the Data Stack in the age of AI with Tristan Handy, President of Fivetran + dbt Labs

Across the data and AI industry, infrastructure that once served dashboards and human analysts is being rebuilt to serve autonomous agents instead. That shift changes what "AI-ready data" actually means, pushing teams to rethink documentation, governance, and the semantic layer so agents pull consistent, trusted definitions rather than guessing. Day to day, this shows up as pressure to clean up gold-layer tables, eliminate duplicate metrics, and formalize business logic that used to live only in someone's head. It raises real questions: how clean does data need to be before agents can safely act on it, and who ends up owning that definition? Tristan Handy is President and Co-Founder of Fivetran + dbt Labs, the company formed by the June 2026 merger of Fivetran and dbt Labs. He founded dbt Labs in 2016 (originally as Fishtown Analytics) and spent a decade as its CEO before leading the company through the merger, and has worked in data for 23 years. In the episode, Richie and Tristan explore the dbt and Fivetran merger, building an open and modular data stack, using data to power trustworthy AI agents, the growing importance of semantic layers, how data team structures are evolving, career advice for data practitioners, context engineering for AI-driven research, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: • Simon Willison's blog • dbt MCP server • Apache Iceberg • Apache Polaris • LookML / Looker's semantic layer • The Vaccine Education Center (CHOP) • Connect with Tristan • AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work Related Episodes: The Data Team's Agentic Future, with Ketan Karkhanis, CEO at ThoughtSpot Towards Self-Service Data Engineering with Taylor Brown, Co-Founder and COO at Fivetran New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

August 31, 202647 min

#375 Is Math The Key to Better Coding AI? With Tudor Achim, CEO at Harmonic

AI capability in mathematics jumped before most people noticed, tackling Olympiad-level problems and unsolved research questions that had resisted attack for years. But the pattern of where AI succeeds and where it stalls is uneven and worth understanding. It's much better at grinding through cases to disprove something than at constructing an elegant, original proof. Anyone working with AI in a technical field runs into this same asymmetry. Where exactly is the boundary between tasks AI can already do reliably and ones that still need human judgment and creativity? Tudor Achim is the co-founder and CEO of Harmonic, an AI company building toward mathematical superintelligence. He previously led the machine learning team at Quora and co-founded and served as CTO of the autonomous driving company Helm.ai. Under Tudor, Harmonic's Aristotle system achieved gold-medal performance at the 2025 International Math Olympiad alongside systems from OpenAI and Google DeepMind — with every proof formally verified. In the episode, Richie and Tudor explore why AI is starting to outperform humans at advanced mathematics, the shift toward formally verified proofs using the Lean language, where AI already beats humans (finding counterexamples) versus where it still falls short (building elegant proofs), how human mathematicians' roles will change, why math capability gains spill over into better AI reasoning generally, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: • Tudor's TED Talk: "The Path to Mathematical Superintelligence" • Aristotle, Harmonic's reasoning system • Harmonic • The Erdős Problems • American Institute of Mathematics • Rich Sutton, "The Bitter Lesson" • Connect with Tudor: LinkedIn • AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work • Related Episode: Why AI Agents Haven't Taken Over Knowledge Work Yet, with Jennifer Smith, CEO of Scribe (exact URL pending — episode published Aug 17, 2026, too recent to be indexed yet; confirm link on datacamp.com/podcast before publishing) New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

Is this your show?

Claim this listing to keep it up to date, reach guests who want to pitch you, and manage bookings with Guestify.

Claim this listing

More Technology podcasts