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Dads Gone Crypto is a show for all dads or anyone else that wants to learn about crypto related topics in a fun and casual way. The news, the cheesy dad jokes and interviews with industry experts will help you navigate the wild west of crypto in your pursuit of wisdom, opportunities and financial freedom, all while having a beer, whiskey and cigars with some buds.

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October 23, 202652 min

The S&P 500 of Crypto Just Got Real (And Most People Are Doing It Wrong)

If you own 20 different cryptocurrencies and they all crash together… are you really diversified? Or did you just find 20 different ways to lose money that day? In this episode of Dads Gone Crypto, we sit down with Joe Sticco (Co-Founder of Cryptex Finance) to break down why traditional diversification thinking falls apart in crypto, how a real digital asset index works, and why institutions are finally paying attention. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/pNtBPOviavA We cover: • Why most “diversified” crypto portfolios are just correlated risk • The 36-asset index tracking ~90% of the crypto market (excluding stablecoins) • Bitcoin as digital gold vs Ethereum as the financial supercomputer • What’s actually changing with regulations (Genius Act, SEC/CFTC clarity) • Tokenization, bank chains, and where the real money is moving • How a DAO-governed index is different from BlackRock-style products • Joe’s wild origin story and why hustle still matters This isn’t hopium. It’s a practical look at where crypto is actually heading for people who want exposure without trying to pick the next 100x. Timestamps: 0:00 – Opening: Diversification question (owning 20 cryptocurrencies that crash together) 1:43 – Crypto index covering 36 digital assets 1:51 – Intro / different way to look at the market 5:36 – Personal story / early days (Sergey, platform, getting listed) 8:55 – Grand Central story (chasing for six blocks) 17:19 – Bitcoin ETFs, institutional money & what’s different now 19:17 – Regulations: Genius Act, Clarity Act, SEC/CFTC rules, custody & listing standards 20:26 – Tokenization, efficiency, Robinhood chain & banks building their own chains 22:44 – Bitcoin as digital gold vs Ethereum as the “supercomputer / app store” 25:50 – Indexing vs holding a single asset (like an S&P 500 for crypto) 27:12 – Difference between an index and an ETF 28:16 – Index structure: five tiers (majors, L1/L2, DeFi, memes/community, innovation) 29:34 – Tracking ~90% of market cap; “set it and forget it” approach 30:24 – DAO governance & community voting on the index 31:23 – Diversification in a highly correlated market (research showing large negative returns) 35:23 – CTX token inclusion in the index 36:18 – How the DAO and methodology work for adding/removing tokens 38:06 – Rebalancing rules & minimum weight thresholds 40:13 – Policy conversations in Washington & the most important regulatory change 40:51 – Privacy, advocacy, and speaking to Congress 47:30 – Where the market and the business model go in five years 50:59 – Closing remarks (“Crypto dads” hustle message) This is for entertainment and education only. Not financial advice. Always do your own research. #Crypto #Bitcoin #CryptoIndex #DadsGoneCrypto #institutionalcrypto 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

October 16, 20267 min

Schwab Just Made Bitcoin Normal — Here’s What Happens Next

Charles Schwab just finished rolling out direct Bitcoin and Ethereum trading to millions of regular brokerage clients. It’s not the biggest news of the year on its own — but it’s another clear sign that crypto is moving deeper into the mainstream financial system. In this episode of Dads Gone Crypto we break down: What Schwab actually launched Why these traditional finance moves matter more than they look How easier access could change who buys crypto and how the market behaves The upside (more capital, more legitimacy) and the trade-offs (more custody, less “pure” crypto culture) What this shift actually means if you already own Bitcoin or Ethereum This isn’t hype. It’s a look at what happens when crypto stops being fringe and starts showing up next to index funds. If you’re a dad (or just a normal person) trying to understand crypto without the noise, you’re in the right place. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/fbXX1wr-fCM Timestamps: 0:00 – Intro: Schwab rolls out direct Bitcoin & Ethereum trading 0:29 – Crypto moving into the mainstream financial system 1:05 – Why Schwab matters (size + legitimacy) 2:03 – What happens if this pattern continues? 2:12 – Effect 1: Lower friction → more potential buyers 2:37 – Effect 2: Increased legitimacy & lower social/regulatory risk 3:05 – Effect 3: Changing audience (older, more conservative) 3:33 – Effect 4: Custodial options becoming the default 4:00 – Effect 5: Pressure on pure crypto companies 4:25 – Trade-offs of mainstream adoption 4:38 – Bigger picture: Adoption is the real long-term tailwind 5:38 – What this means for current holders 6:29 – Note for people still on the sidelines 6:47 – Closing thoughts + call for comments 7:15 – Outro + disclaimer #Bitcoin #Crypto #Schwab #MainstreamCrypto #DadsGoneCrypto 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

October 16, 202644 min

Abdu Rozik Turned Down Bitcoin at $6,000 but then he saw the light

Abdu Rozik joins Dads Gone Crypto for his first real crypto conversation. No expert claims. Just the story of a kid from a small village in Tajikistan who was bullied, never quit, and built a global community through music, Bigg Boss, boxing, and social media. He talks about the friend who tried to give him 2–3 Bitcoin when it was about $6,000, why Bitcoin is his favorite, the $300 trade that hit $500 and then went to zero, and why patience matters more than hype. He also hints that something community-first may be coming, and explains what “family” actually means to him. Not financial advice. Entertainment and conversation only. Always do your own research. Watch here: https://youtu.be/qA2b6NZf_oQ Timestamps: 00:00 Intro: what happens when a global personality steps into crypto 01:51 Abdu Rozik joins the show 02:13 Growing up in a Tajikistan village, bullying, and never giving up 03:04 The mall moment that showed him he had a real community 04:40 One Piece, Pokémon, and sports cards 05:56 What community means to him: family 06:40 Why he’s entering crypto now 06:59 The friend who offered him Bitcoin at $6,000 09:47 Why Bitcoin is his favorite 10:59 Would he build something? The surprise he won’t reveal yet 12:10 If he ever launched a token, what it would have to do for fans 15:04 Signed cards, meetups, and experiences he wants to create 17:02 The moment that would make him proud 18:09 Why his community has to be in it from the start 20:04 From “mostly scam” to learning the real thing 20:35 The fishing analogy: crypto rewards patience 21:30 His first live trade: $300 to $500 to zero 24:41 Quick fire: singing vs boxing, home, dinner guest, and more 28:38 The skill nobody expects: he used to make leather shoes 30:23 Wallets, public addresses, and privacy 32:14 Why he likes his Tangem hardware wallet 33:21 American Fortress, simple names, and stealth addresses 37:31 Fake accounts, giveaway scams, and official sources only 41:53 His message to fans starting in crypto AbduRozik, DadsGoneCrypto, Bitcoin, Crypto, CryptoInterview, Tajikistan, BiggBoss, Web3, CryptoCommunity, BitcoinStory, TradingStory, NotFinancialAdvice, HardwareWallet, Tangem, CryptoScams, CommunityFirst, OnePiece, CardCollecting 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

October 2, 202648 min

Your Crypto Transaction Isn't Private — Even When It Is | Corey Petty

Is a crypto transaction really private if the transaction itself is hidden — but someone can still work out who sent it, when it happened, where it came from and who processed it? Dr. Corey Petty joins Dads Gone Crypto to challenge one of the biggest assumptions about blockchain privacy. Corey is Chief Evangelist at Logos, a long-time blockchain security researcher and an early voice in the Bitcoin and Ethereum ecosystem. His argument is simple — and uncomfortable: Crypto may be protecting the transaction while exposing everything around it. Watch the full interview: https://youtu.be/ULKHR5jpnmQ In this episode, Sean and Ryan explore the difference between transaction privacy, metadata privacy and operator privacy — and why that distinction becomes increasingly important as banks and institutional finance move on-chain. We put institutional blockchains such as Canton Network under the microscope. Canton uses selective disclosure to protect sensitive financial information while maintaining the auditability and compliance institutions require. But is selective disclosure enough? Or can transaction timing, counterparties, infrastructure and network metadata still reveal information worth millions to competitors, analytics companies or governments? Corey walks us through the lifecycle of a crypto transaction — from the first message between two people to final blockchain settlement — showing where information can potentially leak before, during and after the transaction. This isn't a Logos versus Canton conversation. It's a much bigger question: What does “private” actually mean when the world's financial system starts moving on-chain? Check out these links from Logos: Logos on the web: https://logos.co/ Testnet v0.3 blog: https://blog.logos.co/article/logos-testnet-v03-live Life's Choices, an interactive film by Logos: https://logos.co/past-present-future/choices Timestamps: 0:00 — Intro: private institutional transactions vs. what metadata still reveals 0:40 — Canton scale (~$6T assets) vs. transaction throughput 1:16 — Guest intro: Dr. Corey Petty (Logos) 2:04 — Three definitions: payload, metadata, and operator privacy 2:46 — Adoption vs. the method of adoption 4:30 — Canton payload privacy: necessary but insufficient 6:11 — “People are killed on metadata” — surveillance before the chain 8:27 — Choosing the asset and the rails (Venmo, banks, Solana, Ethereum, Monero, Logos) 9:36 — Building the transaction, multisig, and full transparency on-chain 10:21 — MEV: sandwiching from leaked metadata 12:19 — Pattern matching, AI, and predictable behavior 14:43 — Why markets extract value when the information exists 15:56 — Who front-runs: institutions and economies of scale, not individuals 17:42 — Coinbase and the right to exit 19:20 — Failure modes: front-end/DNS spoofing, MEV, regulation (Tornado Cash) 22:19 — The privacy finance pipeline: plug one leak and it moves 22:54 — Selective disclosure should sit at the user, not the middleman 25:04 — Why identity should not be baked into the base layer 25:57 — Privacy tradeoffs: latency, ZK cost, mixed networks 27:21 — Firms, MEV, and raised barriers to entry 30:20 — Value extracted from leaked information vs. real economic activity 31:14 — Chainalysis and the internet’s surveillance asymmetry 34:03 — Leaky-bucket argument: settlement privacy alone is not enough 35:20 — Tornado Cash: regulators move to the layer below 36:49 — Latency, finality, and throughput tradeoffs 38:20 — Logos mechanics: Cryptarchia (private PoS) and the Blend network 39:50 — Opaque pipes: operators shouldn’t see what they’re processing 41:20 — Regulation risk and multiple jurisdictions 43:41 — Banks want confidentiality and accountability 44:32 — Neutral base rails; accountability built on top 46:30 — Closing: settlement-only privacy is privacy theater 48:18 — Disclaimer HASHTAGS #CryptoPrivacy #BlockchainPrivacy #InstitutionalCrypto #CoreyPetty #DadsGoneCrypto 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

September 25, 202657 min

90% of Crypto Tokens Are Broken — Alex Cutler, CEO of Dromos Labs, Explains Why

What if the crypto project succeeds… but your token doesn’t? That’s the uncomfortable question at the centre of this episode of Dads Gone Crypto. Our guest is Alex Cutler, CEO and Co-Founder of Dromos Labs, the team behind Aerodrome and Velodrome and now building Aero. Alex argues that roughly 90% of crypto tokens fail to generate meaningful value for the people holding them. So we put that thesis to the test. What actually makes a token valuable? Why can Bitcoin succeed without cash flow while thousands of other tokens struggle? Can a protocol attract millions of users and billions in volume… while the token itself still fails? And importantly — does Aero pass the same test Alex applies to the rest of crypto? Watch it here: https://youtu.be/m5742RrI_XM We get into: • Why token price and protocol success are not the same thing • Where value actually goes when someone trades on a DEX • When token emissions create growth — and when they become inflation • What happens if AERO falls 80% • Why Hyperliquid changed expectations around token value • Aero’s ambition to become a major spot-market liquidity layer • The real moat behind Uniswap • Whether Aerodrome’s success on Base can translate to Ethereum • What separates crypto projects that survive bear markets from those that disappear • The three numbers Alex looks at when judging protocol health • And the big question: could Aero eventually challenge Uniswap? This is not just a conversation about another DEX. It’s about a much bigger question: When a crypto protocol creates value… who actually captures it? Featuring: Alex Cutler — CEO & Co-Founder, Dromos Labs Hosted by Sean and Ryan — Dads Gone Crypto. ⚠️ This content is for educational and informational purposes only and is not financial advice. Always do your own research before making any investment decision. #Crypto, #DeFi, #Aerodrome, #Aero, #Uniswap, #Hyperliquid, #DEX, #Ethereum, #Base, #Tokenomics, #altcoins Timestamps: 0:00 – Intro: who captures value in crypto? 0:41 – Guest intro: Alex Cutler’s path into DeFi 1:30 – Aerodrome + Velodrome combining under Aero 2:30 – Why most tokens fail to capture value 3:24 – The 90% problem and “worst version of an asset” 5:17 – Building a system that redistributes 100% of value 8:03 – Why Bitcoin is different from most tokens 10:17 – Tokens as subsidies vs real on-chain firms 12:14 – Utility vs value redistribution 14:12 – Hyperliquid as the model for real value capture 16:13 – How Aero’s incentive flywheel works 19:18 – Dilution, emissions, and growing the pie 23:39 – Stress test: what if AERO falls 80%? 25:30 – Why merge Aerodrome and Velodrome 27:16 – Meta swaps, Slipstream V3, and new tech 30:07 – Predictive allocation explained 33:54 – Can Aero do for spot what Hyperliquid did for perps? 38:16 – Competing with Uniswap and winning on Base 42:36 – What survives a brutal bear market 48:03 – Five years out: who becomes the biggest DEX? 50:44 – Why they didn’t take the easy token playbook 54:17 – One question to ask before buying a token 56:33 – Outro 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Join us for the fun and get in touch with us with the links below: 🌐 Follow and Connect with us: 🔗👇 To check out our other social platforms, please visit: https://linktr.ee/dadsgonecrypto Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts

September 18, 202659 min

Onchain Bridges: How Regulated RWA Moves Across Chains Without Losing the Rules | Ilan Klein

If you put a real-world asset on a blockchain, how do you move it somewhere else without leaving the rules behind? Ryan sits down with Ilan Klein of Onchain Bridges to break down tokenized real estate, lending, KYC, banks, and AI agents — in English a dad can follow. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/cF4W0VmfWzI They cover: Why issuing a token is the easy part, and moving it compliantly is the hard part. How compliance can travel with the asset across Ethereum-style chains, Solana, Stellar, Stacks, and more. One KYC that works across chains instead of uploading your passport four times. A live testnet demo: bridging an asset, taking a loan, and letting an AI agent do the clicks. Why banks still care about public chains. TokenControls — the “break glass” tool if a holder becomes non-compliant. Where to poke the testnet yourself: Test it: https://rwa-testnet.onchainbridges.com https://onchainbridges.com Educational only. Not financial advice. Always do your own research. Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: moving real-world assets without losing the rules 00:44 – Meet Ilan Klein / what Onchain Bridges is in plain English 06:32 – Why tokenization isn’t “solved” yet 10:09 – What’s different from wrap-and-pray bridges 13:29 – What this means for a regular user 18:48 – KYC once, use it across chains 21:27 – Why the chain still matters 26:12 – Is it live? Human-interface demo 32:30 – The concierge agent takes the loan 37:06 – What a bank would actually do with this 41:01 – Why a private chain becomes an island 42:37 – Can an AI agent stay compliant? 46:24 – What keeps Ilan up at night + TokenControls 52:43 – What’s next: mainnet, partners, token 56:01 – Where to test it / how institutions reach them 57:18 – Wrap 58:40 – Disclaimer Hashtags #DadsGoneCrypto, #OnchainBridges, #RWA, #Tokenization, #RealWorldAssets, #DeFi, #KYC, #Bitcoin, #Ethereum, #Solana, #Stellar, #Stacks, #AIAgents, #CryptoForBeginners, #CryptoDadX 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Join us for the fun and get in touch with us with the links below: 🌐 Follow and Connect with us: 🔗👇 To check out our other social platforms, please visit: https://linktr.ee/dadsgonecrypto Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

September 11, 202634 min

Unstaked ETH Is Dead Money Now | Lido’s Kean Gilbert

BitMine has ~87% of a 5.9M ETH stack staked. SharpLink put $200M through Lido. BNY is adding staking to a $62T custody platform. So the new question isn’t “should institutions buy ETH?” It’s: if you already own it… why is it sitting idle? Kean Gilbert (Lido, Head of Institutional Relations) on whether unstaked ETH is becoming dead money — and what happens when staking gets too successful. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/0HI4aBxKx0A 0:00 – Intro: institutions are staking ETH 1:33 – Welcome & guest intro: Kean Gilbert (Lido) 3:42 – What actually happens when you stake ETH 3:54 – Why institutional staking is exploding now 5:10 – “There’s no point holding unstaked ETH” 7:26 – Why 2–3% matters to institutions more than retail 9:33 – Native staking vs liquid staking (stETH) 12:10 – SharpLink’s $200M Lido allocation 14:24 – Why institutions choose Lido 16:34 – Will TradFi / custody / ETFs replace liquid staking? 18:23 – What happens on a bad day (depeg, exits, stress) 21:18 – When does “productive ETH” become leverage? 23:02 – Concentration risk: Lido, BitMine, big pools 26:00 – EIP-8363 / reducing staking issuance 28:02 – ETH vs Bitcoin as a treasury asset 31:05 – Five years from now: what “we hold ETH” means 33:17 – Wrap-up & disclaimer Not financial advice. Educational only. Dads Gone Crypto. #ETH, #Ethereum, #Staking, #Lido, #bitcoin 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Join us for the fun and get in touch with us with the links below: 🌐 Follow and Connect with us: 🔗👇 To check out our other social platforms, please visit: https://linktr.ee/dadsgonecrypto Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

September 11, 20261 hr 14 min

AI Is Hiring AI: Inside the Agent Economy Already Happening

AI isn't just answering questions anymore. It's starting to hire other AI agents, pay them for work, use their results and continue operating — without a human approving every step. That sounds futuristic. It isn't. In this episode of Dads Gone Crypto, Sean and Ryan sit down with Dr David Minarsch, CEO of Valory and a founding member of Olas, to explore what a real autonomous agent economy is beginning to look like. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/00eNxEqK6qQ Olas has already facilitated millions of agent-to-agent interactions where specialised AI agents request services from other agents, pay for those services and act on the results. But once machines can hire machines, much bigger questions appear. How does an AI decide who to trust? Who is responsible when an agent makes a costly mistake? Can autonomous agents collude or manipulate each other? What happens when businesses start selling to AI customers instead of humans? And could we eventually have an entire economy operating beneath the internet at machine speed? We explore: How one AI agent hires another Agent-to-agent payments Why specialised AI may beat one giant super-agent x402 and machine-native micropayments AI agents as economic actors Reputation and verification between agents Game theory and autonomous AI Liability when there is no human in the loop User-owned AI vs Big Tech-controlled agents Prediction markets as an early agent use case Businesses selling directly to machines What the agent economy could look like by 2030 This isn't a conversation about science fiction. It's about infrastructure that is already being built. Educational content only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial advice. Timestamps: 0:03 — AI agents hiring other AI agents 0:58 — Welcome to Dads Gone Crypto (Sean & Ryan) 1:07 — Guest intro: Dr. David Minarsch / Olas 1:42 — How an agent finds, hires, and pays another agent 8:01 — What’s different from old-school APIs 11:08 — Locked industry data (pharma / cancer example) 12:12 — One giant AI vs. an economy of specialists 17:21 — Why machine-native payments matter 20:00 — On-chain wallets vs. card rails 22:00 — User agents vs. autonomous businesses 24:50 — Subscriptions vs. pay-per-request 30:42 — Olas since 2023: millions of agent-to-agent txs 38:54 — Reputation, escrow, and consumer risk 42:23 — Why prediction markets are a good proving ground 45:56 — Darwinian selection of good vs. bad agents 49:27 — Game theory: collusion, free-riding, fraud 52:17 — Institutions, “AI cops,” and defense agents 56:10 — Can you teach an AI that honesty pays? 1:00:25 — Advice for people who want to build agents 1:04:10 — Don’t trust every AI narrative (incentives) 1:05:06 — Who owns the agent working for you? 1:08:06 — The agent economy in ~5 years 1:12:16 — Where Olas goes next 1:13:27 — Recap and close AI agents, agent economy, AI agent economy, autonomous AI agents, AI hiring AI, agent to agent payments, A2A AI, Olas, David Minarsch, Valory, x402, AI payments, machine economy, autonomous agents, AI wallets, crypto AI agents, machine payments, multi agent systems, AI future, decentralized AI, user owned AI, artificial intelligence, Dads Gone Crypto 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Join us for the fun and get in touch with us with the links below: 🌐 Follow and Connect with us: 🔗👇 To check out our other social platforms, please visit: https://linktr.ee/dadsgonecrypto Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

August 28, 202653 min

Crypto Lending Is Broken. This Founder Wants to Rebuild It

What if you never missed a payment on a Bitcoin-backed loan... but your Bitcoin could still be liquidated because the market crashed? That's one of the problems Omer Husain believes crypto lending got fundamentally wrong. Omer is Co-Founder & CEO of POGUN — a team building a different approach to Bitcoin-backed credit. Instead of allowing price movements alone to determine default, POGUN is designing bilateral credit around agreed terms: rate, duration, repayment schedule, collateral and default conditions are established before the agreement begins. But removing price-based liquidation raises an even bigger question: Who takes the risk when Bitcoin crashes? Watch the episode here: https://youtu.be/NNty06D85-Y Sean and Ryan sit down with Omer to explore the founder story behind POGUN and unpack: • Why Omer believes DeFi confused lending with margin trading • Putting Bitcoin to work without blindly chasing yield • Price liquidation vs actual payment default • What protects lenders when BTC falls • POGUN Desks and bilateral credit • Bond Tokens and the possibility of secondary Bitcoin debt markets • Why Bitcoin collateral shouldn't be pooled or rehypothecated • POGUN Mirror and keeping Bitcoin on Bitcoin • The August 2026 Bitcoin mainnet prototype test • Why POGUN chose Cardano • What still needs to be built • The questions every Bitcoin holder should ask before putting BTC to work POGUN's Bitcoin collateral product remains in development and its full Mirror infrastructure is currently a prototype. The bigger question isn't simply how much your Bitcoin can earn. It's what you have to risk to make it productive. Visit Pogun: https://pogun.io/ https://x.com/pogun_io Subscribe to Dads Gone Crypto for conversations that make crypto easier to understand without the hype. Educational content only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial advice. Timestamps: 0:00 – liquidated without missing a payment 1:38 – Welcome: Omer / Pogun 2:03 – Why crypto credit felt wrong 5:12 – DeFi loans vs a mortgage 5:57 – Margin trading dressed up as credit 7:10 – Why Bitcoin holders borrow at all 10:20 – BTC drops 40%, payments still made: what happens 12:11 – Default: whole collateral vs amount owed 14:50 – If there’s no price liquidation, who takes the risk? 18:13 – Bond tokens and on-chain credit history 20:18 – Anonymity vs a credit profile 22:06 – Credit desks vs DeFi pools 26:26 – Can the loan itself be transferred? 30:47 – Mirroring Bitcoin vs wrapping it 33:15 – One deposit, one loan (architecture) 37:17 – Why Cardano (and other chains later) 41:35 – Where Pogun is today 46:06 – Launch timing, waitlist, where to follow 49:29 – What to check before putting Bitcoin to work 51:04 – If this works, what Bitcoin can do in 5 years 52:19 – Close and disclaimer 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Join us for the fun and get in touch with us with the links below: 🌐 Follow and Connect with us: 🔗👇 To check out our other social platforms, please visit: https://linktr.ee/dadsgonecrypto Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

August 28, 202618 min

Bitcoin Just Woke Up — But THIS Is the Bigger Story

Bitcoin just broke out of a six-week range. Billions of dollars in crypto shorts were wiped out. Ethereum moved. HYPE surged. And suddenly everyone is talking about crypto again. But the price pump may not be the most important thing happening. In this episode of Dads Gone Crypto, Sean and Ryan look underneath the move. The US Treasury is increasing liquidity-support buybacks in longer-dated government bonds. Donald Trump is publicly pushing Congress to move the CLARITY Act forward. The conversation around bringing platforms such as Hyperliquid into the regulated US market is changing. And quietly in the background, Nasdaq and CME have been building the infrastructure that allows traditional finance to gain broader exposure to crypto as an asset class. So is this simply one enormous short squeeze? Or are liquidity, regulation and institutional access beginning to line up at the same time? Watch the episode here: https://youtu.be/TLqK4U3XIVA We break down: • Why Bitcoin suddenly broke higher • How a $3B+ short squeeze can accelerate a market move • Why the US Treasury bond market matters to Bitcoin • What the CLARITY Act could actually change • Why Hyperliquid has suddenly become such an interesting case study • What the Nasdaq CME Crypto Index really is • Why HYPE joining the index matters — and what it DOESN'T mean • How institutional crypto infrastructure is being built • The five signals we're watching from here • What would tell us this breakout is real — or failing The important question isn't: “What should I buy?” It's: “What changed underneath the market?” Because when everyone else is watching the candle... watch the plumbing. 🎙️ Dads Gone Crypto Education. Not hype. This content is for educational and informational purposes only and is not financial advice. Timestamps: 1:00 – Welcome to Dads Gone Crypto (not financial advice) 1:32 – What we’ll cover today (Bitcoin move, shorts, Treasury, politics, Hyperliquid, Nasdaq/CME) 2:28 – The short squeeze explained (forced buyers & chain reaction) 3:15 – After the squeeze: need for real demand (ETFs, institutions, liquidity) 3:30 – US Treasury bond buybacks & why they matter for risk assets 5:35 – Looking at the bond market instead of just Bitcoin candles 5:41 – Washington catalyst: Trump meeting & the Clarity Act 6:03 – Why regulatory clarity matters for institutions 7:41 – Hyperliquid mention & CFTC discussions 8:37 – Hyperliquid joining Nasdaq CME Crypto Index (Sept 1) 9:18 – Index composition & weightings (still Bitcoin-dominated) 10:30 – Why traditional finance benchmarks & infrastructure matter 11:42 – The plumbing of institutional adoption is being installed 12:20 – The “Dad Radar”: 5 things to watch 13:00 – #2 Flows (ETF inflows & sustained capital) 13:42 – #4 Regulation (watch what becomes law, not just speeches) 14:07 – #5 Institutional access (benchmarks, futures, ETFs, custody) 14:55 – Practical advice for dads (no FOMO, no leverage with family money) 15:28 – What confirmation looks like (hold breakout, inflows, liquidity, regulation progress) 16:19 – What would kill the thesis 17:16 – Biggest story isn’t just Bitcoin at $72k — it’s the changing plumbing 17:34 – Recap of the 5 things to watch 17:43 – Education, not hype – Outro #Bitcoin, #Crypto, #Ethereum, #Hyperliquid, #HYPE, #Nasdaq, #CryptoNews, #btc 👋 Who Are We? Join Sean and Ryan, your friendly crypto dads, as we share insights, experiences, and dad-approved tips on venturing into the exciting realm of cryptocurrencies. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes, our podcast is your crypto companion. 🚀 What to Expect on Dads Gone Crypto: Expert Interviews: Hear from industry experts, influencers, and fellow crypto enthusiasts sharing their journeys and valuable insights. Practical Guides: Step-by-step tutorials and guides on getting started in crypto and maximizing your experiences. Join us for the fun and get in touch with us with the links below: 🌐 Follow and Connect with us: 🔗👇 To check out our other social platforms, please visit: https://linktr.ee/dadsgonecrypto Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this recording are for entertainment purposes only. Do not misconstrue what you hear as investment or trading advice. Always do your own research. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the guests on this recording are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Dads Gone Crypto or its hosts.

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