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CropTalk

Hosted by Kyle Barnett

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Episodes

286

Latest episode

Aug 2026

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EN

About the show

Welcome to CropTalk, Your favorite podcast for all things greenhouses, CEA, and AgTech! Whether you've been with us since day one or you're a brand-new listener (hi, welcome, grab a seat!), we're here to bring you insightful conversations with the people shaping the future of agriculture.​ Hosted by the endlessly curious Kyle Barnett, CropTalk dives into everything from growing tips and industry trends to personal stories and business advice. We talk with growers, greenhouse operators, AgTech innovators, and anyone with a good story to tell. It's like chatting with your smartest friends over coffee, except about crops (and usually with fewer coffee spills). Now powered by IUNU, CropTalk has had a little glow-up. We've added more resources, expanded our guest list, and doubled down on making every episode better than ever. So whether you're here for the wisdom, some entertainment, or both, you're in the right place. New listeners, longtime fans, welcome to the CropTalk family. Let's talk crops and grow together!

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August 4, 2026Episode 28553 min

285. What Actually Gets a CEA Company Funded or Sold in 2026 w/ Andrew Howell

In this episode of CropTalk, we sit down with Andrew Howell, Partner at Ascendant Partners. Andrew last joined us 101 episodes ago at episode 174 in November 2021, and he returns to test what actually holds up about getting a CEA company funded or sold heading into 2026 and 2027. We walk through the three legs of the stool he uses to judge any operation: reliable growing technology and a cost effective build, yield that pencils, and a buyer at the end. We cover why "if you build it, they will come" broke down against retailers like Kroger and Whole Foods that were never going to carry 50 suppliers of the same 5 ounce clamshell. We get into offtake as the precondition Ascendant now requires before taking on a mandate, the shift from world domination plans to businesses targeting a 10 to 15 percent EBITDA margin, and why food and agriculture is roughly 8 percent of US GDP but attracts less than 1 percent of investment dollars. We also cover the shrinking pool of investors who have not already been burned in the space, the two plus year cycle to bring new acreage online, Taylor Farms acquiring the Equinox facility in Virginia, whether a head grower belongs in the boardroom, the 2017 white paper Andrew wrote arguing greenhouses would win out over vertical farms, and his call for small and mid-sized acquisitions to roll into larger networks through 2027. The unvarnished truth he gives clients, even when they do not want to hear it, runs through the entire conversation.

July 14, 2026Episode 28453 min

284. Presence is a Strategy w/ Ryan Douglas

_*]:min-w-0 gap-3 standard-markdown"> In this episode of CropTalk, we sit down with Ryan Douglas, cultivation consultant and author of Presence Is a Strategy . Ryan brings more than 25 years in commercial cultivation, starting with 15 years growing ornamental flowers across New Mexico, Mississippi, and Massachusetts, followed by a decade in cannabis that included serving as head grower for one of the first federally licensed medical cannabis facilities in Canada, built inside a former Hershey chocolate factory, and consulting for international investors and operators in Colombia. We walk through the book chapter by chapter, starting with why infrastructure doesn't run itself and the lesson of a low-tech Mississippi greenhouse with blackout curtains closed by hand that produced impeccable crops. We cover the corporate interference trap, including a tone-deaf HR hat program that divided a crew of H-2A, local, and staffing agency workers overnight. We get into why dashboards don't grow crops, from a management team quietly collecting weekend overtime to an IPM manager who never left her office, and how showing up at odd hours surfaces problems no sensor ever will. We also cover the price tag of ego, why top performers resign quietly and leave first, and the bankability test, Ryan's case that lenders fund repeatability, that a new operation should prove consistent production within its first 12 months, and that an outstanding first crop can be one of the most dangerous things for a cultivation business. Ryan closes with his prediction that the future of CEA lies in bringing traditionally outdoor crops like coffee and citrus into protected environments.

June 29, 2026Episode 2831 hr 3 min

283. Building Greenhouses in the Desert: Scale, Climate, and Hard Lessons w/ Ryan Archer

In this episode of CropTalk, we sit down with Ryan Archer, co-founder of Horizon Growers, a developer and operator of high-tech greenhouses. Ryan came into CEA in 2018 from a construction background, brought onto a project he was told only was a greenhouse, which turned out to be a 12-hectare semi-closed facility in Al Ain, United Arab Emirates, producing 6,000 tonnes of fresh tomatoes a year for the local market. We walk through what it takes to build at that scale all at once rather than in modular phases, from 18 months of construction in summer heat reaching 48 to 50 degrees Celsius, to a peak workforce of 130 people across 16 to 20 nationalities, to managing the interface between a Dutch construction company and local civil crews. We get into why humidity, not temperature, became the defining grower challenge, and why the team ran the operation as a fully integrated business covering the build, the growing, the packing, and the sale into local retailers. We cover what they underestimated about market entry, including why a population of 11 million is misleading once you break it down by earning power and buying habits, and why local high-tech product struggled against a regional perception that premium means imported. We also cover the energy thinking that came out of the desert and now drives a roughly 35-hectare tomato greenhouse in Germany, labor retention at remote sites, and where Ryan sees greenhouse automation heading. The advice to build trust with your technology supply chain early runs through the entire conversation.

June 15, 2026Episode 28253 min

282. Innovation Doesn't Sell Itself w/ Jennifer Neujahr and Ted Buis

In this episode of CropTalk, we sit down with Jennifer Neujahr and Ted Buis, co-founders of Next Step Solutions. Between them they bring nearly six decades in horticulture: Jennifer spent more than three decades introducing products across six continents, including the 60X scale-up of Hydra fiber while building the horticulture group at Profile Products, and Ted grew a Dutch substrate company from €40 million to €200 million in turnover across 11 operations in nine countries. We get into why innovation doesn't sell itself, and why grower economics decides whether a new product gets adopted no matter how good the technology is. We walk through their Innovation Journey framework, the five steps from unvalidated technology to validation, commercial proof, funding, and scale, and Ted's point that real strategy means being clear on what you won't do. We cover the substrate market itself: the Wageningen University projections for global growing media demand through 2050, where the missing volume comes from, and the place of peat, coconut coir, and wood fiber alongside emerging materials like rice hulls, sugarcane bagasse, miscanthus, hemp fiber, and hydrogels. We also cover the costs growers overlook, from disease pressure to the 10 to 25% sell-through loss tied to pay-by-scan in North American retail. We close on predictions: fewer but larger operators, food security pulling India, China, and Africa into controlled environment production, and the new crops surfacing from wasabi to cacao. The case that a market has to be built before it can be scaled runs through the entire conversation.

June 1, 2026Episode 28158 min

281: The Plant Leads the Operation w/ Pieter Slaman & Tim Van Hissenhoven

In this episode of CropTalk, we sit down with Pieter Slaman, founder of GaaS Solutions and advisor to Green Gardens in Slovenia, and Tim Van Hissenhoven of Cultivators. Pieter spent over a decade scaling Little Leaf Farms into one of North America's leading greenhouse lettuce operations, while Tim was raised in a Belgian greenhouse, spent years in commercial hydroponic lettuce in the Netherlands, and now takes operations from first business concept through technology selection, startup, and grower training. We walk through the discipline both of them practice the same way, letting the plant lead the operation while sales, finance, and the boardroom organize around it, and the morning walkthrough that tells them within minutes whether a facility is healthy, from sizing up labor by the cars in the lot to reading the propagation field first. We cover why the first seven to eight days after seeding decide the fate of the crop, and how Pieter holds germination at 97 to 98% through redesigned germination boxes, screening, and fogging. We get into the failures they see most, greenhouses engineered around a technology instead of the crop, projects sited where the grower fights the climate every day, and operators who forget they run a low-margin business with no buffer. We also cover vertical farming's narrow economic window, the finance-versus-grower fight over yield as equipment ages and light degrades, and how they pressure-test vendor claims of 2.5 to 25% yield gains. The conviction that the fundamentals have to be right before any technology earns its place runs through the entire conversation.

May 14, 2026Episode 28048 min

280. Pushing the Plant: Propagation, Protocols, and Grower Collaboration w/ Rachel Warner

In this episode of CropTalk, we sit down with Rachael Warner, head grower at Planteva, a vertical propagation company in Canada delivering clean, pest-free starts for leafy greens and strawberries. Rachael holds a master's in plant science with a controlled environment focus and has worked across small, medium, and large-scale facilities before taking on the role of building Planteva's production protocols from the ground up. We walk through what protocol development actually looks like when your job is to push a plant as hard as possible without breaking it, and how running a plant past its delivery window by just 24 hours can take you right to the edge of tip burn. We cover the clean start problem the industry has with strawberries, what it means to give growers a genuine stamp of approval on plant health, and why that responsibility sits entirely with the propagator when something goes wrong. We get into grower-to-grower collaboration as a collective protection mechanism, why word of mouth is still the most reliable filter for evaluating new technology, and what happens to an industry where operators keep reinventing the same wheel in isolation. Rachael also shares her take on where high-tech propagation fits into the broader CEA supply chain and where she sees the model going as the push for local production accelerates.

May 5, 2026Episode 27951 min

279. Linear and Boring: The Revol Greens Turnaround w/ Dirk Aleven

In this episode of CropTalk, we sit down with Dirk Aleven, CEO of FoodVentures and acting president of Revol Greens. Dirk has spent two decades operating greenhouses across Eastern Europe, Asia, Scandinavia, and the US, and was brought in by Equilibrium Capital to lead the Revol Greens turnaround. We walk through what he found when he arrived at the Texas farm, including a sign on the wall directing the daily flow of new hires to walk to the left, and what the first 12 to 18 months of operational work actually looked like. We cover how Dirk cut overhead by 74% in three months, why decisions had to move back to the farm, and what running a corporate bureaucracy instead of a functioning greenhouse looked like from the inside. We get into the harder conversation that came after stabilization, when Dirk had to sit down with HEB and Sam's Club to walk back the year-round organic spinach and arugula commitment that had been promised, and how that honesty rebuilt credibility with retailers over the next 24 months. We also cover the partnership with Nature Fresh Farms that came out of that credibility, the conventional-versus-organic resilience question that surprised him in Texas, and the framing he keeps coming back to for the next decade of CEA: capital intense, linear, and boring, with a 10-12% return ceiling on invested capital. The advice he wishes more CEA founders heard before raising their first dollar runs through the entire conversation.

April 21, 2026Episode 27839 min

278. Scaling Lessons, Pivots, and Growing Inside Corrections w/ David Flynn

In this episode of CropTalk, we sit down with David Flynn, CEO of AmplifiedAg, a Charleston-based company building technology and systems for container farming and grow room operations. David spent 25 years as a U.S. Army officer, earned the Silver Star, and found his way into CEA through founder Don Taylor after settling down in Charleston in 2015. We walk through the full arc of Amplified AG, from six containers in Summerville, SC to 160 containers in Columbia, SC and how that journey shaped a sharper, more focused company on the other side of it. We get into what the distribution reality looked like at scale, what ultimately drove the pivot back to technology, and what David now tells every operator who asks how to grow. We also cover a USDA Vegetable Research Lab partnership that expanded what he thought was possible inside a controlled grow room, and the project he is most proud of: a container farm and workforce certification program inside a South Carolina correctional institution that reduced recidivism risk and turned a profit.

March 17, 2026Episode 27744 min

277. 2026 Predictions Series (Episode 3) w. Dave Chen, Equilibrium Capital

In this episode of CropTalk, we close out the Predictions for 2026 and Beyond series with Dave Chen, CEO of Equilibrium Capital. With over $1 billion raised and deployed into large-scale greenhouse operations and companies like Revol Greens and Little Leaf Farms, Dave brings one of the most grounded capital perspectives in CEA. We dig into the faster-than-expected consolidation that reshaped the TPC sector, why leafy greens took longer than anticipated but has now hit a genuine retail inflection point, and how the vertical farm survivors are finally gaining traction by committing to high-value niches instead of chasing scale. We also get into where AI will actually move the needle in CEA operations, from demand forecasting and logistics to the deeper question of what a facility looks like when it is designed for automation from the start rather than retrofitted around people.

February 24, 2026Episode 27642 min

276. 2026 Predictions Series (Episode 2) w. Adam Bergman, EcoTech Capital

n this episode of CropTalk, we continue the Predictions for 2026 and Beyond series with returning guest Adam Bergman, Managing Director of EcoTech Capital. Our conversation is grounded in Adam's 2026 report, The Ugly, the Bad, and the Good , where he lays out a clear read on the AgTech and FoodTech landscape heading into the year ahead. We dig into why Adam expects 2026 to bring the highest number of bankruptcies, restructurings, and fire sales yet, how the lack of exits is tightening investable capital across the sector, and why the companies that survive will be the ones with viable business models and a near term path to profitability. We also explore the "good" side of the equation, including the megatrends Adam believes will keep pulling the sector forward, plus the areas where he is seeing real traction today, especially automation, robotics, and digitization. Adam's Article: https://ecotechcap.com/news-%26-articles

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