Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast

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Jun 2026

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In the 'Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast,' seasoned Real Estate experts Mike DeHaan and Dan Austin discuss how to use Real Estate to create Massive Income not just Passive Income. Real estate doesn't have to be a get-rich slow game, and by bringing over 500 successful deals worth of experience in three years, their episodes unpack the art of real estate investing, wholesaling, house flipping, and transforming properties into profitable rentals. Listen as they share uncensored insights and strategies, from compelling guest interviews revealing personal journeys and finding off-market deals to in-depth deal analyses and the latest market trends. Whether you're taking your first investment step or scaling up your portfolio, embark on your investment journey with the Collecting Keys podcast - where every episode unlocks a door that brings you one step closer to financial freedom so you can finally live the life of your dreams.

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June 16, 202647 min

EP 496 - Why SpaceX and Bitcoin Hype Pays Everyone But You

What did you think of todays show??Kiavi just sold for $717 million, SpaceX is about to IPO at a $1.77 trillion valuation, and the through-line is the same: the people selling deals get paid whether you win or lose. In this episode, Mike, Dan, and Dylan break down why lenders are built to be flipped, why every standard metric on the SpaceX IPO makes zero sense, how AI data centers actually help your town, and why bigger funds quietly hand you worse returns. The lesson: before you invest, follow the incentives.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Kiavi sells to Figure for $717 million (04:38)Why lenders are built to be sold, not held (06:22)The fraud borrower with six loans (16:40)Why the SpaceX IPO breaks every metric (18:12)Mike bets SpaceX drops below $135 (23:16)Is Bitcoin just the next hype trade? (23:32)CPI games and the rigged inflation math (27:32)Why AI data centers are a nothing sandwich (28:50)A decade of inflation until 2030 (29:14)America: the best house in a bad neighborhood (38:07)Why bigger funds quietly punish you (42:59)Follow the incentives before you invest (45:15)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

June 9, 202641 min

EP 495 - Operate Like a Recession Is Coming (Even When You're Winning) w/ Aaron Bihl

What did you think of todays show??Pace Morby blocked Aaron Bihl for explaining the Morby Method out loud. In this episode, Aaron fills in for Mike while he and Dan break down the contradictions piling up around creative finance's loudest salesman: personal guarantees that aren't real, the 50-year mortgage Pace now calls a deal he hates, and the sub-two horror stories that haunt wholesalers forever. Plus why the only thing that survives a weird economy is buying real equity, not the hype someone's selling you.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why Aaron got blocked by Pace Morby (01:17)The Brandon Turner call that backfired (02:24)Pace's personal guarantees that aren't real (04:47)Why the Morby Method invites mortgage fraud (06:52)Sub-two insurance tricks that fall apart (08:00)Sub-two horror stories that haunt wholesalers (10:25)The 50-year mortgage Pace now regrets (15:34)Why sound operators survive a weird economy (18:46)AI, data centers, and the anti-AI crowd (22:02)SpaceX is the new Bitcoin (31:12)Day traders, peptides, and the next get-rich-quick (35:22)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

June 1, 202640 min

EP 494 - Why You're Already Living the Life You Want

What did you think of todays show??Most people chase money for stuff they don't actually want. In this episode, Mike, Dan, and Dylan break down the lies about luxury, real estate, and the stock market that keep people stuck. Why your $1,000-a-night hotel doesn't make you happier. Why MDs keep buying Cincinnati 4-plexes at $600K. Why the S&P 500 is really the S&P 7 propped up by 401k passive bids. The guys close with some Robinhood "what if" nostalgia.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The luxury trap and why most wealth purchases don't make you happy (00:30)Why you're already doing 95% of what you actually want (04:22)Dylan's Audi and the car dealership financing game (09:51)Mike's orange jumpsuit pants in eviction court (12:38)Why MDs keep buying overpriced Cincinnati 4-plexes (19:01)The Orange Blossom conflict-of-interest joke (22:54)Is index fund investing dead? Why your S&P 500 is really the S&P 7 (27:50)Polymarket and Elon Musk tweets as a trading instrument (31:01)Why your index fund's biggest forced buyer is your retirement account (32:01)Millennial mobility vs baby boomer housing demand (33:22)Robinhood nostalgia and the Micron "what if" trade (37:04)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

May 26, 202643 min

EP 493 - How AI is replacing Appraisers, Real Estate Agents, and Insurance, sooner than you think

What did you think of todays show??The appraisal is dying. Big lenders are building their own AI valuations, one broker rebuilt his entire MLS in a single weekend, and the people whose whole job was telling you what a house is worth are about to be gone. In this episode, we break down which real estate middlemen AI is about to wipe out, why Cincinnati could be the next market lenders blacklist, and why filing an insurance claim almost never pays off.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Revisiting the Brandon Turner and Pace Morby guru fallout (00:08)The Cincinnati appraisal mess lenders are watching (06:21)The fraud network that quietly costs investors money (07:42)Why appraisers are about to be eliminated (09:49)How AI could erase real estate agents and the MLS (14:37)The new wholesale disclosure laws and the loophole (17:33)Finding the local lender who thinks he is winning (20:16)Why filing an insurance claim rarely pays off (22:04)Why your insurance premium doubles after one claim (24:17)Bitcoin's comeback and Iran's reserve play (31:01)The K-shaped recession and Bezos's tax pitch (34:23)Why this generation can't figure anything out (37:45)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

May 12, 202640 min

EP 492 - How to Spot a Real Estate Mentor Who's About to Sink You

What did you think of todays show??A Hawaii broker tracked Mike down by email to warn him a Pace Morby sub-to deal had collapsed, the investors were headed for the SEC, and the people at the top had already paid themselves. In this episode, Mike and Dylan break down who actually profits when a deal goes wrong, from wholesalers who squeeze the seller after the inspection to syndication fees you pay whether the fund performs or not. Plus, why a record slice of the stock market belongs to almost nobody.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Working and closing deals while you travel (2:12)The $2 bill trick that builds business connections (4:05)The Pace Morby deal headed to the SEC (5:49)How the top five paid themselves first (8:28)Two kinds of operators: revenue vs sustainability (13:00)Why "equity pirate" wasn't really an insult (14:27)You don't know your ethics until you're tested (15:44)The price-drop that got wholesalers banned (17:40)Syndication fees you pay for zero performance (20:12)The 30-year mortgage tops 5% again (22:26)The stock market's record concentration at the top (30:01)Why companies, not governments, may run everything (31:35)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

May 12, 202642 min

EP 491 - Why Brandon Turner's Investors Lost 100% (And What It Means For You)

What did you think of todays show??Before you write a six-figure check into a syndication, listen to this episode. Brandon Turner's Class B investors just lost 100 percent of their money on a single Houston deal. We break down who you can actually trust with your money: the spokesperson-versus-operator filter, the cash floor that protects you, why oversharing tanks your loan, and what the Buffett yardstick at 230 percent is signaling about the market.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The Brandon Turner fund just wiped out Class B investors (07:18)Why losing 100 percent in real estate syndications is more common than you think (09:20)The downside math nobody pitching syndications wants to show you (11:01)The cash floor before any swing investment (15:08)Spokesperson vs operator: how to filter the founder you trust (17:29)Eviction speeds and rent-increase rules: Ohio vs Washington (19:29)The Cincinnati hypothetical: would you take a $100K spread with a year of negative cash flow? (23:55)Why oversharing with your lender will sink your loan (30:24)The conventional-loan fee racket vs DSCR (34:54)The Buffett yardstick at 230 percent and what it signals (38:39)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

May 5, 202644 min

EP 490 - How to Profit on Mobile Homes W/O the Parks with Aaron Bihl

What did you think of todays show??If it doesn't have wheels, Aaron Bihl doesn't want it. After splitting with his Texas business partner and watching the San Antonio flip market grind to a halt, he moved to South Carolina and went all-in on new mobile homes on cheap lots. In this episode, we break down why FHA buyers love new manufactured homes, how Aaron sources lots for $10-15K, the trap of paying retail for land, and why hard money loans aren't part of his game anymore.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why Aaron left San Antonio for Greenville (01:50)The Texas market is brutally slow (02:36)Why South Carolina is mobile-home country (04:25)Chris Reed and the 12 ways to monetize (05:32)Why new manufactured homes are FHA-eligible day one (09:01)Aaron's economics: $10-15K lots, $225K sales (11:03)Hard money vs private money: what to actually ask (15:13)The biggest gotcha (perk tests and county-level rules) (25:17)Greenville's old-money explosion (34:31)Why AI is a distraction for most investors (41:00)Connect with Aaron Bihl:https://www.fliptrailers.comhttps://www.instagram.com/aaron.bihl/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

April 28, 202651 min

EP 489 - Where The Smart Money Is Quietly Moving Right Now w/ Drew Wiard

What did you think of todays show??Most fund operators get paid whether your money performs or not — acquisition fees, management fees, prefs that don't actually pay until years in. Drew Wiard built his fund the opposite way: zero fees, and he personally guarantees every loan, so he doesn't get paid until you do. In this episode, Drew is back for round four on why that skin-in-the-game structure is the alignment most operators won't touch, why industrial is the unsexy corner of the market nobody posts about on Instagram, and bonus depreciation that puts 20–30% of your capital back in year one.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why finance-space culture is so different from real estate (03:13)Multi-family vs. single-family — where's the downside really at? (08:15)Why lenders are bypassing appraisals entirely (10:48)The DSCR fraud ring lenders are still cleaning up (13:25)Inside Drew's commercial industrial fund (16:49)The personal-guarantee structure most operators won't touch (21:55)Why industrial real estate isn't on Instagram (and why that's the opportunity) (25:25)Triple net leases and how Drew adds value without flipping (30:32)The 20–30% bonus depreciation play for high-W-2 earners (32:55)Investment thesis discipline: make money, don't lose money (37:22)Concentration risk and the case for taking chips off the table (46:25)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Connect with Drew Wiard:https://www.linkedin.com/in/drew-wiard-4b99bba3/https://www.instagram.com/theflyinginvestorFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

April 21, 2026Episode 48838 min

EP 488 - How to Avoid the AI Trap Capturing Most Entrepreneurs

What did you think of todays show??If you're spending your weekends building AI agents for your business, there's a good chance you've already fallen into the trap most entrepreneurs are walking right into.In this episode, we break down how AI is hurting most entrepreneurs' businesses, the one case where Mike actually used AI the right way, and what the S&P 500 hitting all-time highs during a war really says about the economy.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)AI and the stock market (03:33)Why building your own AI is a deflection (08:13)The first 2-person billion-dollar company (10:48)The right and wrong way to use AI in your business (13:32)Scarcity mindset and AI in the wholesale space (17:01)The truth about the S&P 500 and economic indicators (17:58)The AI “arms race” and who's really in power (24:44)What can we believe about the Iran war? (32:45)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

April 14, 2026Episode 48747 min

EP 487 - The Stock Market Is Rigged and Your Portfolio Proves It

What did you think of todays show??They told you to max out your retirement accounts. Mike is doing the opposite.In this episode, we get into why traditional retirement accounts might be working against you, and where Mike is putting his money instead. We also break down the insider trading problem nobody wants to talk about — and whether the financial system behind your portfolio is as trustworthy as you’ve been led to believe.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The Airbnb model that could actually work (00:30)Why you should pay quarterly taxes (01:27)Airbnb tax benefits you should know about (08:13)Las Vegas lending conference and the Russian gambler (11:58)Fake tax infographics and gurus (18:51)Why Mike doesn’t believe in IRAs (21:10)Is the government keeping the stock market high? (29:00)Insider trading, Polymarket, and why the market is rigged (31:00)Why off-market investors need to change their sales pitch (34:15)Which real estate guru is going down next? (38:00)Dan’s take on all the military firings (44:00)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com