CLOC Talk

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Jun 2026

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Tune in to CLOC Talk every other week to discover thought leaders hailing from corporate law departments, law firms, legal technology enterprises, legal services firms, consulting services providers, and academia. You may just find the meaning of life.

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June 11, 202624 min

Go Far, Go Together: The Power of Industry Partnerships

This episode of CLOC Talk Live from CGI 2026 features CLOC President & CEO Oyango Snell in conversation with Timo Karakashev, exploring the power of community, partnerships, and innovation in the legal industry. Together, they discuss how conferences like CGI create opportunities for connection, education, and business growth while expanding access to legal technology around the world. The conversation also examines the role of AI, the future of legal services, and why collaboration—not competition—is the key to building a stronger global legal ecosystem.

May 14, 202612 min

CGI 2026 Meditation #3: Feeling Tones

This wellness-focused podcast from the CLOC Global Institute 2026 guides listeners through a meditation practice centered on observing “feeling tones”—the positive, negative, or neutral emotions attached to thoughts. It emphasizes mindful awareness, encouraging participants to gently notice distractions, reconnect with their breath, and build self-awareness without judgment. Sponsored by Legal Fly, the session promotes mental clarity, presence, and gratitude as tools for overall wellbeing.

May 13, 202611 min

CGI 2026 Meditation #2: Visualization

This wellness podcast from the CLOC Global Institute 2026 guides listeners through a calming, sensory-based visualization meditation, inviting them to imagine a peaceful walk to the ocean. By engaging all five senses—sight, touch, sound, smell, and taste—the practice helps deepen relaxation, emotional awareness, and presence in the moment. Supported by Legal Fly, the session encourages listeners to reconnect with their breath, body, and inner calm before returning to their day.

April 27, 202611 min

CGI 2026 Meditation #1 Breathing

This wellness podcast from the CLOC Global Institute 2026 introduces a foundational breathwork meditation aligned with the theme “Stronger by Design,” emphasizing intentionality, presence, and the power of stillness. Listeners are guided to anchor their attention on the breath using a simple mantra, building awareness while gently releasing distractions without judgment. Supported by Legal Fly, the session encourages mindfulness, emotional check-ins, and a calm, focused return to the day.

April 23, 202628 min

The Business of Law with Kunoor Chopra

Host: Janessa NelsonGuest: Kunoor ChopraThis episode of CLOC Talk features Janessa Nelson in conversation with Kunoor Chopra, exploring how legal departments can rethink the business of law through smarter use of technology, data, and global resources. The discussion highlights the shift from traditional, reactive legal models to more intentional, design-driven approaches that prioritize efficiency, scalability, and strategic impact. Chopra shares practical insights on right-sourcing work, leveraging alternative legal service providers, and integrating technology in ways that actually solve business problems—not just signal innovation. The conversation also emphasizes the human side of transformation, focusing on enabling legal professionals to spend more time on high-value work while reducing administrative burden. As Corporate Legal Operations Consortium Global Institute approaches, the episode leaves listeners with actionable guidance on where to start, how to build momentum, and why now is a pivotal moment for legal operations evolution.

April 2, 202628 min

Shaping the Future of Legal Ops Learning (Part 2)

In this episode of CLOC Talk, host Adam Becker sits down with Catrine Chevalier and Andrea Shaheen to explore how the Education Advisory Council (EAC) is redefining learning in legal operations. From building a global, collaborative learning ecosystem to navigating rapid innovation like GenAI, they share how education is becoming a strategic driver of credibility and career growth. The conversation dives into what modern legal ops professionals need most—practical skills, peer-driven insights, and the ability to think strategically in a constantly evolving landscape. If you're looking to stay ahead in legal ops, this episode offers a clear view of where learning—and the profession—is headed next.

March 19, 202625 min

The Long Run: Leading with Endurance, Authenticity, and Strategy in Legal Operation

This Clock Talk episode features Lyndsay Van Benschoten, Director of Legal Operations at HCA Healthcare, discussing why legal operations transformation should be treated as a marathon rather than a sprint. Drawing on her experience running marathons across every continent, she explains the importance of pacing change, sequencing initiatives, and prioritizing long-term strategy over quick fixes. Lindsay shares how she built a legal operations function from scratch by focusing on relationships, foundational processes, and data-driven decision making. She emphasizes balancing quick wins with long-term infrastructure to build trust and momentum. The conversation highlights that sustainable legal ops leadership requires discipline, resilience, and a human-centered approach.

March 6, 202623 min

Shaping the Future of Legal Ops Learning (Part 1)

In Part 1 of this CLOC Talk series, host Janessa Nelson sits down with Education Advisory Council members LaResa Young, Matt Wheatley, and John Esposito to explore what inspired them to join the EAC and what excites them most about advancing legal operations education. From webinars and CGI to LMS innovation and global skill-building, the panel discusses how learning is evolving across the profession. Tune in for an insightful conversation about where legal ops education stands today — and where it needs to go in the next 3–5 years.

January 29, 202630 min

CLOCWise 2025 Recap and Looking Ahead to 2026 With Europe

CLOC Talk continues its Clockwise: Year in Review & What’s Next series with a spotlight on Europe—highlighting 2025 as a year of intentional investment, partnerships, and community-building across the region. Host Oyango Snell is joined by Sean Houston, Head of Legal Operations at Heineken and a key leader in CLOC’s European strategy, to discuss the growth of legal ops across the Benelux and beyond, and why Europe’s community culture—open knowledge-sharing, practical takeaways, and “rising tide lifts all ships”—has become a powerful engine for progress.The episode looks ahead to an ambitious 2026, including the CLOC Europe Summit on February 5, 2026 in London, the launch of the Germany chapter, and the continued expansion of member-driven formats like CLOC Around the Table dinners. Sean also previews new regional programming such as CLOC Connect in the Netherlands—bringing together in-house teams, law firms, vendors, and ALSPs/consultants to tackle real operational challenges like outside counsel management—reinforcing CLOC’s focus on practical learning, local relevance, and whole-ecosystem collaboration.

January 22, 202643 min

CLOCWise 2025 Recap and Looking Ahead with Australia

In this special year-in-review episode of CLOC Talk, host Oyango Snell is joined by Australian legal ops leaders Anna Golovsky, Petra Sterling, and Matthew Duncan to reflect on the milestones, momentum, and lessons that shaped the Australian Legal Ops community in 2025—and to preview what’s ahead in 2026. Together, they explore how a “small but mighty” community is driving real impact through practical innovation, peer collaboration, and honest case studies.The conversation covers AI adoption and upskilling, spend and vendor management, CLM implementation, data governance, and knowledge management (“curate or wait”), along with the realities of law-firm collaboration and operating in highly regulated environments. They also discuss why ROI-focused AI use cases, mentoring, and community-led learning remain essential—and how Australia’s market dynamics can help influence the global legal ops conversation in the year to come.

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