ClaimTalk

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May 2026

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Welcome to ClaimTalk, the official ClaimDOC podcast, where we dive deep into the complex world of unbundled health plans. Together with industry experts, we'll pull back the curtain on a wide variety of cost containment topics. We'll provide listeners with a lot of information with a few shenanigans along the way.

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May 29, 202633 min

Health Insurance Is a Mess; How’d We Get Here? – Part 1 | Ep. 24

Purchasing healthcare didn’t become this complicated overnight. So how did we get here? Our industry experts — CEO Ben Krambeck, Vice President of Provider Relations Brad Hansen and Vice President of Audit Services Cynthia Swanson — join Danielle Young on a new ClaimTalk to trace the policy decisions, reimbursement shifts and billing changes that helped create today’s health insurance mess.From the Affordable Care Act to questionable billing practices to the coding complexity still driving costs and confusion, their conversation breaks down how the system changed — and how understanding that history can lead to better decisions for employer health plans.

April 17, 202623 min

How Dual Option Turned an RBP Skeptic Into an Advocate | Ep. 23

Convincing consultants to bring reference‑based pricing to clients isn’t easy. Paul Saunders, executive vice president at Saunders & Company, knows firsthand as someone who once was "totally opposed" to RBP. That changed when he saw how a dual‑option approach could work: pairing a traditional health plan with a lower‑cost RBP option and letting members choose what fits them best.In this month's episode of ClaimTalk, Saunders joins ClaimDOC’s Omar Arif and Stephanie Mohr to explore how dual‑option plans help brokers address rising renewal costs without forcing employers into an all‑or‑nothing decision. They explore why offering choice may be the most practical path to affordability, client confidence and long‑term satisfaction.

March 6, 202637 min

Good TPAs – They Do Exist | Ep. 22

Who's a good third-party administrator? There are many to choose from, but far fewer that consistently deliver when it matters. And the difference between a good TPA and a mediocre one often determines whether a health plan works exceptionally well or frustrates everyone it touches.Our last two episodes of ClaimTalk weren't kind to TPAs. While much of that criticism was earned, the reality is that TPAs operate in a landscape that is complex, constrained and often misunderstood.On this episode, Luke Schafer of BRMS joins Danielle Young, Shay Butler and Dallas Lovell to discuss why the strongest TPAs are the ones that stay in their lanes and are laser-focused on their primary responsibility — paying claims.

January 29, 202640 min

The Search for a Good TPA — Part 2 | Ep. 21

Selecting the right vendors for a reference-based pricing health plan isn’t an exact science. At the end of the day, it often comes down to experience, discernment, and the ability to read the signals vendors give off long before the contract is signed.In this episode of ClaimTalk, Emma Fox, CHVA joins Danielle Young, Bruce Hansen and Stephanie Mohr to continue their unapologetically candid examination of vendor dynamics to offer pointed insights on evaluating partners that can make or break a self-funded strategy. They break down what truly constitutes “good” and “bad” vendor vibes, define what real competency actually looks like, and outline how to identify red flags before they turn into costly mistakes.If you’re serious about elevating your self-funded health plan performance, this conversation cuts through the noise and shows you what to look for, because not every vendor deserves a seat at your table.

December 12, 202538 min

The Search for a Good TPA — Part 1 | Ep. 20

Building a successful self-funded health plan demands skilled and efficient vendor partners that have the expertise to deliver on their promises. Identifying the best vendors can be challenging, and settling for substandard partners can lead to less-than-desirable outcomes. But how do you find the best partners?On this episode of ClaimTalk, Emma Fox, CHVA gets brutally honest during the first half of a two-part conversation with Danielle Young, Bruce Hansen and Stephanie Mohr on the struggles that can arise with vendors. While a good portion of the discussion centers on the issues they've experienced with third-party administrators, they also discuss why it can be difficult to find the right partners, the strategies they use to identify dependable vendors, and why some of the most unreliable vendors continue to survive in the industry.

October 23, 202531 min

Why RBP Success Starts With HR | Ep. 19

In 2022, Featherlite Trailers partnered with ClaimDOC to begin implementing a new reference-based pricing health plan for its employees. It's no secret that moving to an RBP plan can come with friction but, with Shannon Westin, SHRM-SCP leading its human resources department, Featherlite didn't just endure the change, they owned it. Westin joins Danielle Young and Amy Hansen on ClaimTalk this month to share how taking the time to truly understand the plan and being proactive in resolving potential issues caused watercooler talk to shift from uncertainty to appreciation.

September 19, 202540 min

Vetting Your Vendors' Cyber Vulnerability | Ep. 18

If your organization sponsors a self-funded health plan and cybersecurity isn’t part of your vendor evaluation criteria, it’s time to reassess. Protecting your own infrastructure is essential, but it’s not enough. Every vendor with access to your data must meet rigorous cybersecurity standards. Otherwise, you're not just accepting risk, you're creating it.In this episode of ClaimTalk, Andrew Smith and Jeremy Schuller share with Danielle Young some of the threat tactics that cybercriminals are using today and discuss best practices in evaluating vendors to ensure your data will be secure.

August 29, 202543 min

Making Sense of Cash Pay | Ep. 17

Paying cash for healthcare services is not a new concept, but it's also an option that is not widely used. The reason for that is because many providers prefer to accept reimbursement from insurance. But cash pay does have its advantages.On this episode of ClaimTalk, Danielle Young visits with Amy Pellegrin and Leah DeBartolo about the pros and cons of cash pay, how health plans can create service around cash pay, and what stands in the way of cash becoming a more popular payment option for healthcare.

July 17, 2025Episode 1623 min

Adapt or Fall Behind: Making Nontraditional Plans Thrive | Ep. 16

For nontraditional health plans to work — whether they use reference-based pricing or another strategy — they often require customized solutions. As health plans evolve, vendors can't ignore new methods to give plan members what they need.In this episode of ClaimTalk, Amy Pellegrin and Stephanie Mohr visit with Sharla Mallett, a member of our direct primary care team. They discuss how the DPC team works to give members a more personalized health plan experience and why making adjustments to health plans is crucial to providing a positive member experience.

June 20, 202531 min

Direct Contracts & Healthcare Pricing Complexities – Part 2 | Ep. 15

Whether you're using a reference-based pricing strategy or some other alternative, there are many challenges in creating an effective direct contract. Much of the time, they boil down to the complexities of healthcare pricing in one way or another. Whether it's compliance with regulations, plan design or services billed by a third party, creating an effective direct contract requires a partner with the expertise to help you maneuver through all elements of the agreement.This month, Jay Kempton, Shane Cerone and Brad Hansen return to ClaimTalk for the second half of an in-depth discussion on direct contracts and how to navigate inconsistencies in healthcare pricing.