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CHAOSScast

This CHAOSS Community podcast features members who spent considerable time and effort to understand open source community health and how we can measure it through metrics, analytics, and software. We invite guests to this podcast to talk about how they use open source community health metrics and software in their own open source communities, companies, or foundations. This podcast fills the gap with open source community metric definitions and software on one side and their use on the other side.
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Last Episode Date: 01/22/2025

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Episode 102: 20min in CHAOSS Africa with Hamza Danjaji and Gift Uhiene
22 January 2025
Episode 102: 20min in CHAOSS Africa with Hamza Danjaji and Gift Uhiene

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 102 In this episode of the CHAOSScast, host Harmony Elendu shares a special segment titled "20 Minutes with CHAOSS Africa," dedicated to sharing experiences and stories from members of the CHAOSS Africa community. The episode features discussions with guests, Hamza Danjaji and Gift Uhiene, who share their unique journeys into the world of open source and their contributions to the CHAOSS community. The conversation provides insights into the impact of community involvement on personal and professional growth and explores the foundational aspects of open source participation. Press download now to hear more! [00:01:06] Harmony introduces “20 Minutes with CHAOSS Africa” podcast series focusing on encounters with open source and experiences in the CHAOSS Africa community, and our guests introduce themselves. [00:01:21] Hamza recounts his initial exploration of GitHub during university, which sparked his interest in open source by fixing readme files. [00:03:10] Gift’s first open source encounter came in 2020 while learning React, leading her to explore public project contributions and the concept of open source. [00:05:46] Hamza and Gift share how their community onboarding and contributions went, as Hamza shares his early community engagement in university, which evolved into advocacy for open source communities, including CHAOSS Africa. Gift talks about her informal entry into open source contributions, which eventually led her to formally join the CHAOSS community and contribute to documentation and code. [00:08:33] Gift details her initial contributions to CHAOSS and her involvement in educational projects, highlighting personal growth through community engagement, and Hamza shares that his first contribution to CHAOSS was very easy. [00:11:00] Harmony asks Gift and Hamza what they love about the community that makes them keep coming back and contributing. Gift appreciates personal growth and Hamza appreciates the structured communication and welcoming nature of the CHAOSS community meetings, which facilitate both listening and contributing. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:14:24] Harmony’s pick is a repo on GitHub called, ‘Everything-Open-Source.’ * [00:15:03] Gift’s pick is to write down your goals. * [00:15:26] Hamza’s pick is a repo on GitHub called, ‘First Contributions.’ Panelist: Harmony Elendu Guests: Hamza Danjaji Gift Uhiene Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Harmony Elendu LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/harmonyelendu/) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Gift Uhiene Website (https://giftea.vercel.app/) Gift Uhiene X (https://x.com/dev_giftea) Gift Uhiene LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gift-uhiene/) Hamza Danjaji LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hamza-danjaji-33635256/) Everything-Open-Source-GitHub (https://github.com/Everything-Open-Source) First Contributions-GitHub (https://github.com/firstcontributions/first-contributions) Special Guests: Gift Uhiene and Hamza Danjaji.

16 min
Episode 101: Inside CHAOSScast with your producers
9 January 2025
Episode 101: Inside CHAOSScast with your producers

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 101 In this episode of CHAOSScast, hosts Alice Sowerby, Harmony Elendu, and Dawn Foster provide an in-depth look at how the CHAOSScast podcast is produced. They share their backgrounds, discuss the importance of community participation, and elaborate on their process for selecting topics and guests. They also discuss the logistics and creative process behind producing the podcast, and the challenges of scheduling recordings and coordinating with guests from different time zones. The episode concludes with a call for community feedback and suggestions to improve the podcast. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:59] There’s a discussion on the history of CHAOSScast, with Dawn explaining how she revived the podcast after a period of inactivity. [00:03:55] Alice reflects on her invitation to join the podcast, her approach to managing her RSI, and her adaption to podcasting. [00:04:44] Harmony shares how he became involved with CHAOSScast, his initial experiences, and the development of the “20 Minutes of CHAOSS Africa” segment. [00:07:02] The hosts discuss the logistics and creative process behind producing the podcast, including selecting topics, and engaging with the community. Technical aspects of the podcast production are explained, such as recording, editing, and hosting tools and services used. [00:11:11] Dawn emphasizes the community-focused nature of their editing process, ensuring all participants are comfortable with the final product. [00:12:25] Alice, Dawn, and Harmony discuss cross-posting episodes from other podcasts and the criteria for selecting topics and guests. [00:16:42] They discuss challenges of maintaining a diverse and interesting guest list, and the importance of involving new voices in the podcast. Also, the logistical challenges of aligning guest schedules, especially considering different time zones and professional commitments. [00:20:06] The hosts encourage the community to suggest topics and promote the podcast to enhance reach and engagement. Ideas for improving accessibility to podcast content, such as curating themed collections of past episodes. [00:24:03] There’s suggestions for integrating episodes into other resources like guides and presentations to further enrich the community’s resources. [00:24:42] The episode wraps up with a call for feedback from listeners to continuously improve the podcast. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:25:14] Dawn’s pick is wandering around Christmas markets in Munich eating roasted chestnuts and drinking glühwein. * [00:26:10] Harmony’s pick is attending cultural activities of different cultures. * [00:27:06] Alice’s pick is sending photos of her vegetable box to the company that she orders from. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Harmony Elendu Dawn Foster Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Sustain Podcast (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/) Alice Sowerby Website (https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Dawn Foster BlueSky (https://bsky.app/profile/geekygirldawn.bsky.social) Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Glühwein (mulled wine) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine) OddBox vegetables (https://www.oddbox.co.uk/)

30 min
Episode 100: Celebrating 100 episodes of CHAOSScast!
26 December 2024
Episode 100: Celebrating 100 episodes of CHAOSScast!

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 100 In this special 100th episode of CHAOSScast, co-hosts Alice Sowerby and Harmony Elendu, along with a panel of eight past and current contributors, reflect on four and a half years of exploring open source community health. They discuss the evolution of CHAOSS, its impact on open-source sustainability, and the critical role it plays in the software supply chain security. The conversation also covers the challenges and future prospects of open source, emphasizing community collaboration, governance, and inclusivity. The episode concludes with each person sharing a single word that encapsulate the spirit of CHAOSS community. Press download to hear more! [00:01:02] Introduction of our eight guests. [00:03:05] Georg Link shares how the podcast began as a platform to amplify stories about open source community health. [00:07:57] Brian Proffitt reflects on how CHAOSS has evolved to address broader topics like sustainability and security within open source. [00:11:12] Divya Mohan discusses the growth and challenges of the CHAOSS Asian Chapter, including efforts to expand inclusivity across Asia. [00:14:14] Elizabeth Barron highlights emerging leaders and new initiatives line using UNSDG working group and Hacktoberfest projects. [00:16:58] Remy DeCausemaker emphasizes the importance of CHAOSS metrics in supporting open source governance and sustainability in the public sector. [00:19:15] Yehui Wang talks about his favorite metrics models. [00:20:51] Ruth Ikegah shares her journey in open source and the role CHAOSS Africa plays in fostering inclusivity and onboarding contributors. [00:25:43] Georg discusses the growing importance of community health in light of regulatory changes and security concerns. [00:31:07] Brian explains the governance structure and the role of the CHAOSS Board in supporting working groups. [00:33:52] The guests reflect on the inclusive and supportive culture of the CHAOSS Project. [00:44:33] Yehui and Sean highlight the accessible resources and welcoming environment for new contributors. [00:47:35] Everyone shares their hopes for the future, including tackling security challenges, fostering global chapters, and expanding impact. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:57:00] Alice’s word is nurturing. [00:57:01] Brian’s word is knowledge. [00:57:06] Elizabeth’s word is love. [00:57:09] Divya’s word is collaboration. [00:57:13] Georg’s word is metrics. [00:57:18] Harmony’s word is perfect place. [00:57:26] Remy’s word is continuity. [00:57:29] Ruth’s word is value. [00:57:35] Yehui’s word is warm. [00:57:39] Sean’s word is karma. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Harmony Elendu Guests: Elizabeth Barron Remy DeCausemaker Sean Goggins Ruth Ikegah Georg Link Divya Mohan Brian Proffitt Yehui Wang Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) Alfred P. Sloan Foundation (https://sloan.org/) Linode (https://www.linode.com/) University of Missouri (https://missouri.edu/) University of Nebraska Omaha (https://www.unomaha.edu/) Alice Sowerby LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-sowerby-ba692a13/?originalSubdomain=uk) Harmony Elendu LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/harmonyelendu/?originalSubdomain=ng) Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/) Remy DeCausemaker LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/decause/) Sean Goggins LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/seangoggins/) Ruth Ikegah LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-ikegah/?originalSubdomain=ng) Georg Link LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/georglink/) Divya Mohan LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/divya-mohan0209/) Brian Proffitt LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianproffitt/) Yehui Wang LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/yehuiwang/) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 24: Starting a Metrics Company with Luis Cañas-Díaz (https://podcast.chaoss.community/24) Open Source Program Office at CMS (CMS.gov) (https://www.cms.gov/digital-service/open-source-program-office) Project Aspen (https://github.com/oss-aspen) Bitergia Blog (https://blog.bitergia.com/tag/chaoss/) CHAOSS metrix 8KNOT (https://metrix.chaoss.io/) CHAOSS-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss) CHAOSS DEI Badging Initiative (https://badging.chaoss.community/) Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Remy DeCausemaker and Yehui Wang.

57 min
Episode 99: Guest Episode - Re-licensing, forks, and community impact with Data in the Hallway
12 December 2024
Episode 99: Guest Episode - Re-licensing, forks, and community impact with Data in the Hallway

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast- Episode 99 Hosts: Ray Paik Daniël van Eeden Guests: Dawn Foster We’re taking a break this week so we’re very pleased to share instead an episode from our friends over at Data in the Hallway, hosted by Ray Paik and co-hosted by Daniël van Eeden. Their podcast dives deep into the fascinating world of database technology, open source innovation, and the incredible stories shaping global tech communities. In this episode, Ray and Daniël sit down with Dawn Foster, Director of Data Science at the CHAOSS Project, to explore the re-licensing of major open source projects—a significant trend over the past decade. Together, they unpack the ripple effects this has on community health, share advice for developers navigating Contributor License Agreements, and examine the financial and business implications of re-licensing. They also reflect on whether this trend is likely to continue in the years ahead. Throughout the episode, they reference some excellent resources, including case-study data from CHAOSS, guides on open source organizational dynamics, and financial analyses that add depth to the discussion. Links to these resources are in the show notes if you want to explore further. The case-study data: https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science/tree/main/dataset/license-changes/fork-case-study More details about the organizational dynamics in OSS: https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-organizational-participation/ Discussion on the topic by James Governor, Amanda Brock, and Dawn Foster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wliDVF3FpI0 Business implications/financial analysis: https://redmonk.com/rstephens/2024/08/26/software-licensing-changes-and-their-impact-on-financial-outcomes/ Magic Roundabout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagicRoundabout(Hemel_Hempstead) If you have any feedback or suggestions for episodes, you can email us at podcast@pingcap.com. ————————— About PingCAP and TiDB ————————— PingCAP is the creator of #TiDB, an advanced, #OpenSource, #DistributedSQL database with #MySQL compatibility. TiDB powers modern applications with a streamlined tech stack, elastic scaling, real-time analytics, and continuous access to data—all in a single database. ————————— Developer resources ————————— 💫TiDB Twitter: https://twitter.com/TiDBDeveloper 💫Introducing TiDB: https://youtu.be/QBrPBwFoWM 💫Quick start with TiDB: https://docs.pingcap.com/tidb/stable/quick-start-with-tidb 💫TiDB in #Kubernetes: https://docs.pingcap.com/tidb-in-kubernetes/stable ————————— Connect with PingCAP ————————— 🔹Twitter: https://twitter.com/PingCAP 🔹LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/pingcap 🔹Facebook: https://facebook.com/pingcap2015 🔹Slack: https://slack.tidb.io/invite?team=tidb-community&channel=everyone&ref=pingcap 🔹GitHub: https://github.com/pingcap Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Dawn Foster X (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Credits: Edited by Paul M. Bahr at [Peachtree Sound] (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr [Peachtree Sound] (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Daniël van Eeden and Ray Paik.

36 min
Episode 98: Community building - the role of culture in OSS project health
28 November 2024
Episode 98: Community building - the role of culture in OSS project health

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 98 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Harmony Elendu is joined by community experts Elizabeth Barron, Ibi (Fibi) Fiberesima, and Ana Jimenez to explore the vital role community culture plays in shaping the experience and productivity of contributors in open-source projects. They dive into the nuances of community management, from setting welcoming and inclusive cultures to recognizing diverse contributions that extend beyond code, and share their insights on building engaged communities, empowering contributors, and using feedback and data to measure community health and success. Press download now to hear more! [00:04:48] We start with Fibi defining community management as building and sustaining inclusive spaces based on principles like membership, influence, integration, and shared emotional connection. [00:05:50] Elizabeth describes how community culture is influenced by leadership, communication style, and project goals. [00:07:26] Ana emphasizes the importance of a clear onboarding process tailored to diverse contributors. [00:09:11] Fibi highlights the importance of welcoming members and creating a personalized experience for each contributor. [00:11:24] Elizabeth shares her approach to community management: creating safe, fun, and welcoming environments where people feel valued, and Ana discusses the value of understanding why members join communities to create better engagement. [00:15:54] The panelists discuss methods to maintain engagement, like recognizing member contributions and adapting community culture. Elizabeth highlights the importance of acknowledging contributions that don’t show up in code, like project management, design, and community engagement. [00:17:47] Ana shares insights on creating local community chapters, particularly for regions with unique cultural needs and Fibi explains the importance of giving members autonomy and opportunities for growth, helping build loyalty and satisfaction. [00:25:30] Harmony brings up measuring for community health which leads to a discussion on metrics for community health: participation rates, retention, and community surveys. Fibi outlines specific metrics used in different communities, from GitLab contributions to social media engagement. [00:32:23] Harmony suggests that members publicly identifying with a community is a positive indicator of community impact. [00:33:52] Fibi’s advice is to be patient, personalize engagement, and document successes, Ana’s advice is don’t put too much pressure on making everyone happy, and Elizabeth’s advice is to set boundaries and encourage a community-wide support system. [00:39:07] Ana, Fibi, and Elizabeth reflect on initiatives they’re proud of, from supporting diverse contributions to creating localized communities. Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:43:43] Harmony’s pick is it’s ok to leave social media and do something else. [00:44:13] Elizabeth’s pick is watching “The Great British Baking Show.” [00:44:57] Fibi’s pick is a defining quote that changed the way she view’s life: “You are in life to experience it and not to control it.” [00:45:53] Ana’s pick is if you’re going to eat a meal, take your time and enjoy the meal tasting all the different meals. *Panelists: * Harmony Elendu Elizabeth Barron Ibi (Fibi) Fiberesima Ana Jimenez Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/) Ibi Fiberesima Portfolio (https://fibi-portfolio.notion.site/Work-Portfolio-9c3694086b234a72aa461cb479abcdb6) Ana Jimenez Santamaria LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-jim%C3%A9nez-santamar%C3%ADa/) GNOME Africa (https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeAfrica) Outreachy (https://www.outreachy.org/) Community Squad Africa X (https://x.com/TheCMSquad) PHP Women (https://leanpub.com/causes/phpwomen) Developer Relations Foundation LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/devrel-foundation/) The Great British Baking Show-Netflix (https://www.netflix.com/title/80063224) Special Guests: Ibi Fiberesima and Ana Jimenez Santamaria.

48 min
Episode 97: Practitioner Guides: #4 Security
14 November 2024
Episode 97: Practitioner Guides: #4 Security

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 97 In this episode of CHAOSScast, Harmony Elendu hosts a discussion with Emily Fox from Red Hat and Dawn Foster, the Director of Data Science at CHAOSS. Today, they explore the new Security Practitioner Guide created to help maintainers, who may lack deep security backgrounds, get started with essential security practices. Emily and Dawn highlight actionable steps, key trends, and simplifications to adopt in maintaining a secure project. They also touch on challenges like vulnerability reporting and the importance of consistent monitoring and updating. Additionally, the guide's flexibility, allowing customization and improvement over time, and the significance of community support are emphasized. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:02] Dawn starts out with providing an overview of CHAOSS Project’s Practitioner Guides, which helps newcomers to open source understand key metrics and mentions the current focus on the Security Guide. [00:03:24] Dawn gives us an overview of the Security Practitioner Guide as she describes it as a starting point for maintainers, particularly those without a security background. [00:04:10] Emily emphasizes that many maintainers struggle with starting security practices and shares the two primary security focuses on open source: project security design and repository security. [00:05:38] Harmony notes the importance of project design and patterns, asking about security trends and considerations in open source projects. Dawn mentions the Libyears (dependency freshness) and Release Frequency as key security metrics, and Emily adds that OpenSSF best practices contribute to project quality and maturity. [00:08:32] Harmony asks for insights on how contributors can interpret these metrics. Emily suggests various resources and communities, such as CNCF’s tag-security, for maintainers looking to improve security. [00:11:39] Emily discusses common issues with vulnerability reporting and the importance of having a process in place, with community resources available for support. Dawn emphasizes the importance of having basic security policies in place early on in a project and suggests starting out with a simple security.md file to outline how to handle vulnerability reports. [00:15:47] Dawn suggests consulting the Practitioners Guide’s “Make Improvements” section, which included adding a security.md file and implementing automation to track outdated dependencies and Emily cautions that metrics are only as effective as their relevance, recommending incremental steps for improvement. [00:18:53] Dawn highlights the importance of the OpenSSF scorecard, which helps both maintainers and OSPOs assess project security. [00:20:29] Emily and Dawn simplify the Practitioner Guides into basic steps and Emily reiterates that projects should define their own security goals and commit to them for consistent improvements. [00:23:56] Harmony emphasizes the importance of documentation for continuity in project security and Dawn reminds us that the Practitioner Guides are MIT-licensed and customizable for different projects. [00:25:11] Dawn and Emily explain where you can ask questions or how to implement things in your project using the Practitioner’s Guide. Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:26:55] Dawn’s pick is 3D printing and learning how to design new things. [00:28:02] Emily’s pick is taking a break from the internet and doing something outside. [00:28:45] Harmony’s pick is creating personalized templates to help with document preparation and tasks. Panelists: Harmony Elendu Dawn Foster Guest: Emily Fox Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Dawn Foster X (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Emily Fox LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/themoxiefox/) CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/) CHAOSS Practitioner Guide: Security (https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-security/) Libyears (https://chaoss.community/kb/metric-libyears/#:~:text=Libyears%20measure%20the%20cumulative%20age,pre%2Drelease%20or%20draft%20versions.) Release Frequency (https://chaoss.community/kb/metric-release-frequency/#:~:text=A%20higher%20frequency%20of%20releases,release%20frequency%20is%20highly%20variable.) Cloud Native Contributors Security Guidelines for New Projects (https://contribute.cncf.io/maintainers/security/security-guidelines/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428) GitHub Docs-Adding a security policy to your repository (https://contribute.cncf.io/maintainers/security/security-guidelines/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428) OpenSSF Scorecard (https://scorecard.dev/) OpenSSF-Source Code Management Platform Configuration Best Practices (https://best.openssf.org/SCM-BestPractices/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428) CNCF tag-security: Self-assessment (https://github.com/cncf/tag-security/blob/main/community/assessments/guide/self-assessment.md) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 85: Introducing CHAOSS Practitioner Guides: #1 Responsiveness (https://podcast.chaoss.community/85) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 88: Practitioner Guides: #2 Contributor Sustainability (https://podcast.chaoss.community/88) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 89: Practitioner Guides: #3 Organizational Participation (https://podcast.chaoss.community/89) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 93: Guest Episode-Sustain meets CHAOSScast to talk about Practitioner Guides (https://podcast.chaoss.community/93) Dawn Foster- Maker World (https://makerworld.com/en/@user_3491927221) Special Guest: Emily Fox.

31 min
Episode 96: What's new with GrimoireLab, the open-source community analytics platform
31 October 2024
Episode 96: What's new with GrimoireLab, the open-source community analytics platform

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 96 In this episode, host Georg Link is joined by guests Courtney Robertson and Santiago (Santi) Dueñas to discuss the latest updates and future directions of GrimoireLab, an open-source tool designed to analyze community health metrics. They dive into how GrimoireLab originated, its current usage, and how organizations like WordPress and Bitergia are utilizing it for community contribution tracking. They explore the challenges of scaling the tool and the needs for further automation and data source integration. Courtney shares insights on how WordPress uses GrimoireLab to track contributors, improve sustainability, and automate reporting, while Santi explains the technical evolution of GrimoireLab, including moving to OpenSearch and improving database performance. Hit download now to hear more! [00:00:57] Courtney shares her background in Word Press and contributions to the community since 2005. [00:02:07] Santi introduces himself and talks about the origins of GrimoireLab as a spinoff from Bitergia. [00:03:34] Georg explains his role as co-founder of the CHAOSS project and its connection to GrimoireLab. [00:05:04] Santi discusses the history and name origins of GrimoireLab. [00:09:21] Courtney talks about her journey using GrimoireLab for WordPress metrics and how it helps improve contributor recognition and shares a story how she met Georg for the first time at a CHAOSScon. [00:16:38] Courtney shares her “Wish list” for WordPress community data tracking, including new data sources and scaling challenges. [00:25:04] Santi explains the current focus on improving GrimoireLab’s scalability and performance. [00:27:55] Georg shares final thoughts on future developments. [00:29:47] Find out where you can follow Courtney and Santi online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:31:08] Georg’s pick is getting a new puppy. [00:31:42] Courtney’s pick is watching the movie Coco with her children. [00:32:24] Santi’s pick is collecting physical media (movies and comics). Panelist: Georg Link Guests: Santiago (Santi) Dueñas Courtney Robertson Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Santiago Dueñas X (https://x.com/sduenasd) Santiago Dueñas LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sduenasd/) Courtney Robertson X (https://x.com/courtneyr_dev) Courtney Robertson Website (https://courtneyr.dev/) Courtney Robertson LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneyr-dev/) GrimoireLab-GitHub (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(2017_film)) Bitergia (https://bitergia.com/) WordPress (https://wordpress.com/) Coco (2017 film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(2017_film)) Solving the Maker-Taker problem-Dries Buytaert (https://dri.es/solving-the-maker-taker-problem) WordPress Contribution Health Dashboards: An Experiment by Hari Shanker R (https://make.wordpress.org/project/2024/09/12/wordpress-contribution-health-dashboards-an-experiment/) Five for the Future program-WordPress (https://wordpress.org/five-for-the-future/) Special Guests: Courtney Robertson and Santiago Duenas.

33 min
Episode 95: Planning an Open Source event or project with DEI badging
17 October 2024
Episode 95: Planning an Open Source event or project with DEI badging

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 95 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Harmony Elendu and guests Ruth Ikegah, Enock Kasaadha, and Adeyinka Oresanya discuss the DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) Badging Project and its impact on promoting inclusivity in open-source communities. They explore the history of the project, the differences between project and event badging, and the importance of DEI badges in signaling a commitment to diversity. The episode provides insights on how to apply for badges and highlights the role of both automation and human reviewers in the process. Listeners are encouraged to learn more about improving diversity in their own projects and events. Press download now! [00:00:28] Ruth, Enock, and Adeyinka introduce themselves. [00:02:47] Harmony introduces the DEI Badging Project and its contributions to open source communities globally. Enock gives a brief history of DEI Badging, highlighting its role in certifying events and projects for diversity, equity, and inclusion. [00:07:01] Ruth explains the key differences between project and event badging. [00:13:21] Enock explains the role of bots in automating parts of the badging process, but notes that event badging involves a more hands-on review by human reviewers to ensure the credibility of the DEI assessment. [00:15:23] Adeyinka discusses the importance of DEI badging for open source maintainers and contributors. [00:17:23] Adeyinka provides a step-by-step guide on how to apply for project and event badges and explains how maintainers need to create a DEI.md file with metrics, and support is available for applicants who need help during the process. [00:24:32] Adeyinka explains that project badges do not currently expire but can be upgraded. Event badges, however, are event-specific and must be reapplied for each new occurrence of the event. [00:25:05] Harmony asks each guest to give a rating from 1-10 on how difficult it is to get a badge in the badging project. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:27:11] Harmony’s pick is the Let’s Talk Docs Podcast. [00:27:26] Enock’s pick is focusing on yourself and how peaceful you feel by living in this world. [00:28:11] Adeyinka’s pick is to be willing to bet on yourself and just take those chances. [00:28:29] Ruth’s pick is prioritizing rest. Panelist: Harmony Elendu Guests: Ruth Ikegah Enock Kasaadha Adeyinka Oresanya Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Ruth Ikegah X (https://twitter.com/IkegahRuth) Enock Kasaadha LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaxada/) Adeyinka Oresanya X (https://x.com/AYK_dev) DEI.md badging template (https://github.com/badging/badging/blob/main/Template.DEI.md) DEI Metrics (https://github.com/badging/event-diversity-and-inclusion/blob/main/CHAOSS-metrics.md) DEI CHAOSS Badging (https://github.com/badging/badging) CHAOSS DEI Badging Initiative (https://badging.chaoss.community/) Sample of a Project or event already Vetted (https://github.com/badging/event-diversity-and-inclusion/issues/351) Sustain-Let’s Talk Docs Podcast (https://ltd-podcast.sustainoss.org/) Special Guests: Adeyinka Oresanya, Enock Kasaadha, and Ruth Ikegah.

29 min
Episode 94: 20min in CHAOSS Africa with Precious, Gloria, and Maryblessing
3 October 2024
Episode 94: 20min in CHAOSS Africa with Precious, Gloria, and Maryblessing

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSScast! CHAOSScast – Episode 94 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Harmony Elendu is joined by members of the CHAOSS Africa community, Precious Abubakar, Gloria Johnson, and Maryblessing Okolie. Join us as they share their personal journeys and experiences contributing to the open-source ecosystem. They also discuss their roles in various CHAOSS projects, including the DEI Badging project, documentation efforts, and the Contributor Covenant. The episode highlights the importance of community support, the challenges and successes in open-source contributions, and suggestions for improving the onboarding process for newcomers. Press download now to hear more! [00:03:21] Precious shares her “open source awakening” through the CHAOSS Project and mentorship programs, particularly the Africa Contributor Program. [00:05:04] Maryblessing shares her experience with the Outreachy program and how conversations with Precious led her to contribute to the CHAOSS Project, specifically working on Augur software. [00:06:50] Gloria talks about her introduction to open source through her friend and joining the CHAOSS community and shares her initial hesitations and eventual onboarding into the open source space. [00:09:17] Harmony discusses the importance of attending open source meetings as a form of contribution and he reflects on the importance of the onboarding party for newcomers in the CHAOSS community. [00:11:51] Maryblessing describes her various contributions to CHAOSS, including event planning, facilitating meetings, and her leadership role in the Contributor Covenant project. [00:17:12] Gloria shares her contribution to the DEI Badging project, reviewing event badges and contributing as a project manager. Harmony praises the Badging project for its impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the open source space. [00:19:25] Precious shares her contributions to Project Badging, the CHAOSS Slack bot, and reflects on her journey in the open source space. [00:23:02] Harmony opens the discussion on how the CHAOSS community could improve the contributor experience, and our guests share how the community has evolved and reflects on improvements such as recognizing no-code contributors and how the tour guide system has been helpful for onboarding newcomers to the community. [00:27:02] Harmony wraps up by commending the community’s efforts to consistently improve the onboarding process for newcomers. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:28:01] Harmony’s pick is let’s see open source as a way of giving back to the world at large. * [00:28:30] Maryblessing’s pick is nobody can steal your vision. * [00:29:04] Gloria’s pick is let opportunities meet you prepared. * [00:29:30] Precious’s pick is relaunching her blog. Panelist: Harmony Elendu Guests: Precious Abubakar Gloria Johnson Maryblessing Okolie Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Slack (https://chaoss-workspace.slack.com/join/shared_invite/zt-r65szij9-QajX59hkZUct82b0uACA6g#/shared-invite/email) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) CHAOSS Project Africa X (https://x.com/chaoss_africa) CHAOSS Africa-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/chaoss-africa) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Harmony Elendu Medium (https://harmonyelendu.medium.com/) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Precious Abubakar Medium (https://preciousdanabubakar.medium.com/) Gloria Johnson LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gloria-johnson-b5aa27205/) Maryblessing Okolie LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ukdevv/) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 67: The CHAOSS Newcomer Slack Bot and She-Code-Africa with Precious and lyimide (https://podcast.chaoss.community/67) Contributor Covenant (https://www.contributor-covenant.org/) CHAOSS DEI Project Badging (https://badging.chaoss.community/project-badging) CHAOSS Slack Bot (https://github.com/chaoss/chaoss-slack-bot) Special Guests: Gloria Johnson, Maryblessing Okolie, and Precious Abubakar.

30 min
Episode 93: Guest Episode - Sustain meets CHAOSScast to talk about Practitioner Guides
19 September 2024
Episode 93: Guest Episode - Sustain meets CHAOSScast to talk about Practitioner Guides

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast- Episode 93 Guests: Elizabeth Barron Luis Cañas-Diaz Dawn Foster Panelists: Alice Sowerby Richard Littauer In this episode of CHAOSScast, it’s a crossover with Sustain, host Richard Littauer is joined by three guests, Dawn Foster, Elizabeth Barron, and Luis Cañas Diaz, to discuss the CHAOSS Project's recent development of Practitioner Guides. The show delves into the purpose of these guides, which are designed to help open source projects interpret and utilize metrics to improve community health and sustainability. The guests explain the significance of metrics in open source projects, the challenges of defining and making them accessible, and how the guides can benefit different types of projects, from large corporations to individual developers. Topics covered include the background and format of the guides, specifics on the metrics discussed, and the practical applications and improvements these guides aim to facilitate. Go ahead and download this episode now! [00:03:03] Dawn fills us in on the connections between the guests and their collective work on the CHAOSS Practitioner Guides. [00:03:43] The conversation shifts to the specifics of the CHAOSS Project, highlighting the international community involvement and various working groups focusing on different aspects of open source projects like corporate OSPOs, university OSPOs, and diversity and equity initiatives. [00:05:31] Luis describes the origin and work of Bitergia and its collaboration with CHAOSS Project, particularly in developing tools like Grimoire Lab. [00:07:17] Richard turns the discussion to the CHAOSS Project’s Practitioner Guides, where Dawn discusses the purpose of the introduction guide in the series, designed to help users understand and apply metrics effectively across various open source contexts. [00:10:58] There’s a discussion on the format of the guides, emphasizing their accessibility, ethical considerations in data handling, and how they’re designed to be adaptable to different needs. Luis highlights the need for CHAOSS and Bitergia projects to provide actionable insights rather than just more metrics. [00:13:28] Elizabeth and Dawn explain the broader goal of the guides to not only provide metrics but also helps users interpret and apply these to drive tangible improvements in open source projects. [00:14:54] We learn about the target audience for the guides and how they cater to both large organizational structures (OSPOs) and individual project maintainers. [00:16:15] Dawn explains what the Contributor Sustainability Guide focuses on, emphasizing strategies for sustainable contribution and community involvement in open source projects. [00:17:53] The discussion centers on renaming the “bus factor” metric to “contributor absence factor” to avoid the negative connotations of the original term, Luis emphasizes the relevance of metrics, particularly in small projects, and Dawn explains that the guides focus on a few key metrics per guide, chosen for their ease of understanding and minimal requirement for data collection. [00:21:58] Richard inquires about the effectiveness of metrics in identifying if a project is on the wrong path, prompting a discussion on the goals of a project and how metrics align with those metrics. Elizabeth and Dawn stress the importance of aligning metrics with project goals and involving project contributors in discussions about what metrics are most relevant. [00:24:35] The discussion continues with considerations on how metrics should supplement, not replace, expert judgement and involvement in project management. Elizabeth and Richard discuss the potential for projects to start with community growth in mind and the challenges in measuring and guiding such growth. [00:28:18] The conversation switches to the remaining guides not yet covered, with Richard asking about the guides on Responsiveness and Organizational Participation. Dawn explains the Responsiveness guide, with its focus on key metrics like time to first response, time to close, and change request closure ratio. Elizabeth and Luis share why this is one of their favorite guides. [00:33:23] We hear about the broader applicability of the guides. Richard questions if the guides are only for corporate-driven projects or if they can serve more relaxed open source environments. Dawn and Luis emphasize that the guides are valuable for a variety of stakeholders, including foundations and volunteers. [00:35:00] Find out where you can look at the Practitioner Guides online. Quotes: [00:07:44] “At the CHAOSS Project we have a whole bunch of metrics, and we have tools or software that help you gather those metrics.” [00:08:06] “There is no one-size-fits-all approach to interpreting metrics.” [00:15:10] “A lot of these guides were designed with OSPOs in mind. They’re all useful to anyone who’s managing a project.” [00:19:55] “For metrics, the bigger the project, the more useful they are.” Spotlight: [00:35:54] Richard’s spotlight is Johnny Wilson, an eBird reviewer. [00:36:34]** Elizabeth’s **spotlight is a project called Clocker. [00:37:30] Dawn’s spotlight is Nadia Eghbal’s book, _Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software, _and her paper, “Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure.” [00:38:29] Luis’s spotlight is Moodle, the OSS learning platform. Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS slack (https://chaoss-workspace.slack.com/join/shared_invite/zt-28p56bayt-67TRjdA4yJWQmUd4hCzULg#/shared-invite/email) CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/) SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Alice Sowerby Website (https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/) Elizabeth Barron Website (https://www.elizabeth-barron.com/) Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/) Luis Cañas-Diaz Website (https://sanacl.wordpress.com/) Luis Cañas-Diaz LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/canasdiaz/) Dawn Foster Website (https://fastwonderblog.com/) Dawn Foster LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnfoster/) Johnny Wilson-Ventures Birding Tours (https://www.birdventures.com/Johnny-Wilson.html) Clocker (https://abhishekbanthia.com/clocker/) Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578675862/) “Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure” by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.fordfoundation.org/work/learning/research-reports/roads-and-bridges-the-unseen-labor-behind-our-digital-infrastructure/) Nadia Asparouhova (Eghbal) Website (https://nadia.xyz/oss/) Moodle (https://moodle.org/) Sustain Podcast featuring Nadia Eghbal (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/nadia) Credits: Produced by [Richard Littauer] (https://www.burntfen.com/) (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at [Peachtree Sound] (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr [Peachtree Sound] (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Luis Cañas-Díaz and Richard Littauer.

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