All Quiet on the Second Front

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If Between Two Ferns and C-SPAN had a child, it would be All Quiet on the Second Front. Blending the very best (and the worst) of government gravitas with technical expertise, Second Front’s Chief Executive Officer, Tyler Sweatt, cuts through the noise and the bureaucratic BS surrounding all things defense tech, national security, and government markets. Be warned: this is not your typical military or government podcast. As host, Tyler has an uncanny ability to get people to talk honestly, making candid conversations that are equally informative and entertaining. All Quiet on the Second Front is the much-needed integrator connecting listeners to experts across fields in an approachable format that offers a fun experience with real conversations, driving real change in the defense tech industry and U.S. national security. Learn more about Second Front at SecondFront.com

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121. Scaling Defense Tech: Hacking Bureaucracy for National Security with Meagan Metzger (Dcode)

High-level policy decrees and exciting national security headlines don't win wars. Execution does.This week, Meagan Metzger (Founder & CEO of Dcode) joins Tyler Sweatt to pull back the curtain on the unsexy, high-stakes reality of defense acquisition reform. While leadership pushes for rapid commercial tech adoption, the "fingers-on-keyboards" workforce is left managing legacy constraints, budget shifts, and an inherent fear of administrative risk.What’s happening on the second front:The critical execution gap between strategic mandates and tactical reality.Re-engineering the internal operating models of DoW programs to maximize authorities.Why commercial founders must understand the defense ecosystem better than their buyers.Transitioning from line-item product procurement to budgeting for mission outcomes.Realigning the incentives within federal labs and research communities toward true mission impact.Connect with MeaganLinkedIn: Meagan MetzgerConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

42 min

120. What Gets Funded in Defense Tech with Paige Craig (Managing Founder & Partner at Outlander VC)

At some point, every founder runs into reality.Not just the pitch or the vision. But the part where it breaks, gets hard, and no one is coming to fix it for you.This is where most companies are decided.Paige Craig (Managing Founder & Partner at Outlander VC) joins guest host Sam Gray to break down how he evaluates founders in defense tech: how conviction is earned, what stands out early, and what separates the teams worth betting on.What’s happening on the Second Front:What earns a first check (and what doesn’t)Insight, obsession, and character—and why they matter more than experienceHow strong teams handle setbacks vs. hide from themThe reality of founder dynamics as companies growWhere defense tech is going—and who’s going to build it?Connect with PaigeLinkedIn: Paige CraigConnect with SamLinkedIn: Sam Gray

24 min

119. Building a Cyber Force That Can Keep Up with Katherine Sutton (Assistant Secretary of War for Cyber Policy, DoW)

Cyber isn’t just a compliance problem anymore.It’s operational. It’s persistent. And it’s moving faster than the systems built to manage it.Katherine Sutton (Assistant Secretary of War for Cyber Policy and the Principal Cyber Advisor to the Secretary of War) joins Tyler Sweatt to talk about keeping pace across policy, technology, training, experimentation, and most importantly - the people.What’s happening on the Second Front: Why cyber can’t be treated as a compliance exercise anymoreThe real bottleneck to adopting new technology (and it’s not the tech)How to get capability into operators’ hands fasterRethinking talent, training, and career paths in the cyber forceWhy incremental change won’t keep up—and what transformation actually requiresConnect with Katherine SuttonLinkedIn: Katherine SuttonConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

30 min

118. Understanding Government Demand with John Price, Founder and CEO of Highground

John Price, Founder and CEO of Highground, has worked across special operations, the Senate, and private markets. Now, he’s focused on helping investors and builders understand what the government actually wants and how it buys.He joins Tyler Sweatt to break down how demand shows up, where teams misread it, and how to identify where real programs—and real money—actually sit.What’s happening on the Second FrontHow government demand actually shows up, and why it’s often misreadWhat separates real opportunities from noise in defense marketsHow investors and operators evaluate where to place betsWhere founders lose time (and how to move earlier in the process)Making the system more predictable instead of relying on luck Connect with JohnLinkedIn: John PriceConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

38 min

117. Infrastructure at the Edge of Everywhere with Armada, Microsoft, and DISA

Today, Armada is opening its first Galleon Experience Center in Washington, DC.A live environment showcasing what it actually takes to run AI at the edge—bringing together ruggedized infrastructure, cloud, and secure software deployment. With 2F Frontier as part of the stack, extending DevSecOps to disconnected, real-world environments.And with Offset 2026 right around the corner, it felt like the right time to revisit a timely conversation from last year.On the Offset stage, Tyler Sweatt, Pradeep Nair (Armada), Leigh Madden (Microsoft), and Korie Seville (DISA) got into:The gap between data and decision at the edgeWhat breaks between connectivity, compute, and deploymentWhy speed to mission still comes down to authorization And if you want to be part of where this is going next, register for Offset 2026.______From oil platforms to special‑ops posts, cloud infrastructures are now being deployed in environments they weren’t initially designed for. This panel explores how customized edge architectures and commercial integrations orchestrate distributed services and securely manage intermittent connectivity. All while addressing ongoing challenges in latency, interoperability, and standardization to deliver resilient, mission‑critical private clouds.Connect with the speakers:Tyler SweattPradeep NairLeigh MaddenKorie Seville

41 min

116. AI, Trust, and the Cognitive Battlefield with Igor Jablokov

Are we even having an honest conversation about AI?Right now the public discourse seems to bounce between two extremes: AI will save the world and AI will destroy the world.Neither is particularly helpful. The more interesting questions are things like: Why is there so much distrust of AI? How should governments actually think about adoption? And how can technology shorten the distance between knowledge and decision-making?In this episode of All Quiet on the Second Front, Tyler Sweatt sits down with Igor Jablokov, Chairman & Founder of Pyron to unpack the conversation we should probably be having about AI, trust, and the future of technology.Connect with IgorLinkedIn: Igor JablokovConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

34 min

115. Andrew Vanderhoof, Director of DAF CLOUDworks at AFRL

Winning a contract isn’t the same as deploying capability.This week, Andrew Vanderhoof (Director of DAF CLOUDworks at AFRL) joins Tyler to talk about what actually happens between “award” and “operational.”They cover:Getting commercial software into classified environmentsWhy OTAs and zero-dollar agreements matterThe real weight carried by DAOs and AOsScaling innovation without breaking trustAnd why the timeline is now weeks to months — not yearsIf you care about commercial-first actually meaning something, this one’s for you.Connect with AndrewLinkedIn: Andrew VanderhoofConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

27 min

114. Derek Hoyt, Co-Founder of GovSignals

Government contracting moves $750B+ a year.But the system still runs on PDFs, spreadsheets, and human bottlenecks.This week, Derek Hoyt — CEO & Co-Founder of GovSignals — joins Tyler to talk about what happens when you aim AI directly at procurement.They dig into:Why contracting shops are gutted but the dollars keep growingThe hidden cost of B&P burn inside defense companiesWhy most new defense startups underestimate procurementHow shrinking a 30-day cycle to a week changes everythingAnd what it would take to move from risk-averse to risk-onConnect with DerekLinkedIn: Derek HoytConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

40 min

113. Sir Tom Copinger-Symes, Former Deputy Commander of UK's Cyber & Specialist Command (CSOC)

If we want to win the next fight, we have to outlearn first.This week, Tyler sits down with Sir Tom Copinger-Symes, former Deputy Commander of UK's Cyber & Specialist Command (CSOC), to talk about the hard shift from infantry officer to cyber leader — and what that journey reveals about where defense is behind.What’s happening on the second front:Industrial-age systems in an information-age worldWhy cyber and electronic warfare are decisiveWhy recruitment is a flow problem, not a patriotism problemThe cognitive battlefield shaping outcomes every dayAnd what dialing up risk really meansNo backbone → no speed.No speed → no advantage.Connect with Sir Tom Copinger-SymesLinkedIn: Sir Tom Copinger-SymesConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

40 min

112. Brian MacCarthy, Managing Partner at Booz Allen Ventures

This week on All Quiet on the Second Front, Tyler sits down with Brian MacCarthy to talk about why defense innovation keeps getting stuck between good ideas and real delivery. They dig into why the ecosystem keeps confusing motion with progress, and what it takes to get past pilots and into production.What’s Happening on the Second Front:Why capital without execution doesn’t move the missionThe real friction slowing commercial tech adoption in governmentCulture change as the hardest (and most necessary) battlegroundWhy “prime vs. neoprime” misses the pointWhat it actually takes to move from pilots to scaled impactConnect with BrianLinkedIn: Brian MacCarthyConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt