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The Natural List

The Natural List

Hosted by Jessica Rubino and Adrienne Smith

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135

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Jun 2026

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EN

About the show

A New Hope Network podcast covering hot products, emerging trends and expert insights driving the future of CPG! Seaweed burgers and meatless meats. Mushroom elixirs and adaptogenic mocktails. Plastic-free packaging and waterless shampoos. The nearly $300 billion-dollar natural products industry is swimming in innovation. But which products and trends have staying power? During this podcast, co-hosts Jessica Rubino and Adrienne Smith share the latest industry news and the most compelling and (sometimes off the wall) innovations that are primed to transform the CPG industry and support a global shift toward healthier, more sustainable living.

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June 10, 202614 min

Saltverk

Salt, fat, acid and heat: There’s a reason salt comes first! On this episode of The Natural List podcast, host Adrienne Smith, a certified salt lover, talks with Gísli Grímsson, Salt Maker at Saltverk, about the brand’s origins and goals. Saltverk is an artisanal Icelandic sea salt company that is best known for reviving an 18th-century Danish method of producing flaky sea salt. This method uses 100% geothermal energy, so while the end product is a food, the company is also a massive geothermal engineering feat. Adrienne and Gísli share a love of good salt and discuss how the brand’s vertically integrated production provides a rare level of control and assurance that the product is microplastic and heavy-metal-free. Listen to the full episode to learn more about how Saltverk began and the passion behind the production. In this episode: 0:18 – Thank you to our sponsor Om Mushroom Superfood. 1:44 – Adrienne introduces our guest interview from the Content Creation Studio at Expo West. 2:20 – Thank you to our sponsor Bimbo Bakeries USA. 3:03 – Welcome to our guest, Gísli Grímsson, Salt Maker at Saltverk. 3:40 – Tell us the story of how Saltverk began. 6:22 – Saltverk is a food product, but it is also a massive geothermal engineering feat. 6:50 – Gísli is celebrating 10 years with Saltverk and the growth of the brand. Though he is a “salt maker,” responsibilities always vary! 9:14 – The water used to make the salt, from deep in the fjords, is microplastic-free. 10:29 – Saltverk’s product is also heavy-metal free. 11:10 – The brand’s vertically integrated system makes it easy to control the inputs and ensure the output meets consumer needs. 11:50 – Gísli shares the brand’s retail strategy in the USA, finding success in both natural and traditional channels.

June 5, 202611 min

Sponsor Soundbyte with Bimbo Bakeries USA

On this episode of The Natural List podcast Sponsor Soundbyte, Nancy Coulter-Parker talks with Alicia Rosas and Chris Wolfe of Grupo Bimbo and Bimbo Bakeries USA to discuss the brand’s sustainability commitments, innovation plans and more. Alicia Rosas, vice president of the healthy products portfolio for North America, starts off the conversation sharing more about the brand’s history and commitment to making a plant-based, whole grain diet more enjoyable for its customers. Then, Chris Wolfe, senior director of environmental and sustainability, shares about the brand’s transition to regenerative agriculture and commitments to environmental stewardship. This conversation digs into the brand’s 80-year history of creating products to nourish a better world while also looking at the advancements happening now which will continue making that possible. Thank you to Bimbo Bakeries USA for sponsoring this episode! Enjoy our vodcasts here or on YouTube. Prefer to tune in via podcast? Join us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. In this episode: 0:25- Welcome to our guests, Alicia Rosas, Vice President, Healthy Products Portfolio for North America, and Chris Wolfe, Senior Director, Environmental and Sustainability at Bimbo Bakeries USA. 0:39 – Alicia discusses how Grupo Bimbo began and the founding story. 2:54 – Alicia describes how the founders came up with the name of the business. 3:53 – What does innovation and clean label development look like at Bimbo Bakeries USA? 6:38 – How does the brand’s commitment to plant-based diets and whole grain ingredients help consumers nourish themselves and a better world? 7:50 – Chris describes the sustainability impacts of a plant-based diet? 8:18 – What does environmental stewardship look like to Bimbo Bakeries USA and Grupo Bimbo? 9:35 – Bimbo Bakeries USA is working with its three largest flour suppliers in the United States to transition to regenerative agriculture. 10:27 – Transparency is key to consumers; how does Grupo Bimbo utilize Smart Labels to increase transparency? 11:25 – Thank you to our guests and our sponsor!

June 3, 202620 min

The Natural List: Trends and taste testing at Sweets and Snacks Expo Date: 6/3/26

We’re back in the studio! This week on The Natural List podcast, Adrienne Smith is joined by NewHope.com Editor Meredith Kaufman to catch up on trends and treats from her time at Sweets and Snacks Expo in Las Vegas, Nevada. First, we break down some of the overarching trends we spotted, like bigger companies going all in on “better-for” products and how GLP-1 users and shifting consumer preferences are reshaping product flavor development. Then, our hosts put some of the standout products to the test with an on-camera taste test! How will these brands fare? Probiotics, new ways to incorporate fiber and protein, freeze-dried popable candies and so much more. Listen now for the full recap of the show and what the findings mean for the future of the snacking industry. In this episode: 0:05 – We’re back in the studio! 0:25 – Thank you to our sponsor Bimbo Bakeries USA. 1:40 – Meredith noticed that the specialty and natural channel continues to grow. 2:25 – PepsiCo is going all in on their “better-for” products, but how do they taste? 4:30 – GLP-1 users are changing the snacking landscape. 5:35 – Disruption and innovation are coming from the bottom up. 7:00 – Candy that’s visually appealing is big. 8:18 – Some bigger trends like protein are still holding strong. 8:50 – Dubai Chocolate trend case study. 10:16 – Thank you to our sponsor Om Mushroom Superfood. 11:00 – Mallow Pop freeze-dried Korean marshmallow bites taste test. 12:26 – Dirty Gut probiotic chocolate taste test. This brand includes 1B probiotics and is sweetened with coconut sugar. 14:12 – Snackish Pickle Punch potato chips taste test. This brand uses the potato skin for protein and fiber. 17:39 – Bonus: The “swicy” (sweet and spicy) trend was alive and well with gummy, sour candy with tajin or other spicy flavors to balance out. 19:14 – Meredith’s top 5 snacks from Sweets and Snacks 2026! Thank you to our sponsors Om Mushroom Superfood and Bimbo Bakeries USA.

May 27, 202625 min

Breaking down the $75B supplement industry

This week on The Natural List podcast, Nutrition Business Journal’s Content and Insights Director Bill Giebler joins us to talk about the $75B supplement industry! Our host Adrienne Smith talks with Bill about the fastest growing categories, news that could greatly impact the industry, which delivery formats are topping the charts and the surprising shopper behavior of younger consumers. Nutrition Business Journal is the “what, where and why” of the supplement industry; What are people buying, where are they buying it and why are they buying it. The newly released Supplement Business Report breaks down the “what” and “where,” making it one of the most valuable reports you can get your hands on this year. Don’t miss out on this free preview of the data in the Supplement Business Report. Purchase the report now to plan your success in 2026 and beyond. Thank you to our sponsors Om Mushroom Superfood and Bimbo Bakeries USA. Thanks for listening! Enjoy our vodcasts here or on YouTube. Prefer to tune in via podcast? Join us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. In this episode: 0:07 – Welcome to our guest, Bill Giebler, Nutrition Business Journal content and insights director. 0:23 – Thank you to our sponsor Om Mushroom Superfood. 1:20 – Bill offers his take on the history behind the new potential bill, which would allow consumers to use FSA/HSA funds for supplements. 3:20 – The Supplement Business Report digs into “what” are people buying and “where” they are buying it. 4:50 – Bill shares the biggest takeaways that surprised him in this year’s report. 11:38 – Thank you to our sponsor Bimbo Bakeries USA. 12:28 – Adrienne and Bill discuss the supplement industry’s projected growth and its market opportunities. 12:48 – NBJ started tracking a new, growing category this year that sets the industry up for high future growth. 14:38 – What’s going on with the social commerce channel and purchasing? 15:31 – Bill talks about the fastest-growing channels for supplements. It might not be what you’re expecting! 16:24 – Going forward, Bill expects the Practitioner Channel to keep growing. 18:15 – Younger consumers are shopping in surprising places. 19:42 – Where is the industry heading with delivery formats? 20:52 – It’s a gummy world, we’re just living in it. (Plus the top three delivery formats.) 23:01 – Purchase the Supplement Business Report on NutritionBusinessJournal.com. Contact Cindy Van Schouwen at CVanSchouwen@newhope.com with any questions! 23:49 – Bonus: Bill’s supplement routine!

May 20, 202627 min

The dairy industry is booming, what's next?

This week on The Natural List, John Coletta, CEO of Clover Sonoma, talks with Co-hosts Adrienne Smith and Meredith Kaufman about the booming organic dairy industry. But what’s behind this growth, and how does innovation impact it? Tune in to this week’s episode to find out! Thank you to our sponsors Bimbo Bakeries USA and OM Mushroom Superfood. Enjoy our vodcasts here or on YouTube. Prefer to tune in via podcast? Join us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. In this episode: 0:19 – Thank you to our sponsor Bimbo Bakeries USA. 1:00 – Welcome to our guest, Clover Sonoma CEO, John Coletta. 2:34 – What’s going on with dairy? It had 9.7% growth in 2025. 4:10 – How do you plan to stay resilient through the peaks and plateaus of dairy, or non-dairy, trends? 6:43 – Where are you seeing the most growth and excitement in your industry? 8:14 – Kefir: a magic food and a category that’s about to explode? 8:43 – How does Clover Sonoma educate its consumers on the benefits of organic dairy? 10:46 – Thank you to our sponsor OM Mushroom Superfood. 11:25 – What are some of the big challenges you’re seeing in the industry? 16:13 – How has Clover Sonoma survived and thrived this long in the industry? 19:13 – Anything new coming down the pipeline for Clover Sonoma? 19:55 – John sees white space for innovation in increasing the sustainability of the farming practices in the dairy industry. 23:54 – Regulations drive innovation; how does Clover Sonoma balance these two?

May 13, 202638 min

Magic Chocolate CEO Joe Whinney on real innovation

Chocolate. Mmmmm. Even just reading the word brings a smile to my lips. On this week’s episode of The Natural List, we talk with Joe Whinney, the co-founder and CEO of Magic Chocolate, and it was a magical experience! Pun intended. Our co-hosts Meredith Kaufman and Adrienne Smith dig into the story behind Magic Chocolate’s evolution, from beginning as a partnership with Dr. Bronner’s, to how regenerative organic, sustainable and responsible choices are second nature in the brand’s supply chain. “Chocolate is something we give to people we love. It's an expression of love and celebration,” Joe shares. “How is it that that product is so harmful to so many people? It makes no sense.” We talk with Whinney about his experience in the chocolate industry, how it’s shaped his approach to business, and why he’s so passionate about making Regenerative Organic Certification (ROC) a baseline in the industry. He also offers advice for smaller brands looking to make sustainable partnerships in the industry. Listen in to hear about Magic Chocolate’s origin story, supply chain conversations, and Whinney’s passion for making ROC mainstream. Listen wherever you get your podcasts and watch the full interview on YouTube. In this episode: 0:19 – Thank you to our sponsor Om Mushroom Superfood. 0:58 – Welcome to our guest, Joe Whinney, co-founder and CEO of Magic Chocolate. 2:27 – Magic Chocolate won a 2026 NEXTY Award in the Sweet Snack or Dessert category. 2:57 – Joe explains what innovation in the chocolate industry looks like to him in this new venture. 5:13 – History behind Joe’s experience in the organic chocolate industry and the previous company he founded. 5:44 – How Joe got connected with Dr. Bronner’s and Magic Chocolate. 8:10 – Joe helped produce the world’s first ROC chocolate and this company is carrying that torch. 8:54 – To Magic Chocolate, a sustainable supply chain is table stakes. The brand wants to compete and innovate with inspiring, unique taste and flavor. 11:25 – Joe wants every chocolate company to be ROC certified, and is willing to help brands get there. 12:50 – Joe discusses the thought process behind naming the new chocolate company. 15:09 – Can you really imagine a world where ROC is the standard? 18:12 - How is Magic Chocolate conveying the value add of ROC and the price point associated with it? 20:14 – What advice would you give other CPG brands looking to find the right partners? 24:16 – How has your experience in other companies helped you get to this point with Magic Chocolate? 27:33 – Thank you to our sponsor Bimbo Bakeries USA. 28:10 – Everything Magic Chocolate is doing now is plant-based. What’s next for the brand? 30:39 – Cocoa and chocolate are volatile industries; have you felt that volatility in ROC cocoa as well? How do your ROC partnerships shape that experience? 35:44 – Where can people find Magic Chocolate?

May 6, 202622 min

2 NEXTY Award finalists make snacking a family affair

“It takes two to make a thing go right! It takes two to make it outta sight.” – Rob Base and Dj E-Z Rock said it best in their hit song from 1988. This week on the Natural List, we’re highlighting two husband-and-wife-led CPG brands: Purplesful Snacking and Jam Packd. This week continues our interview series from the CPG Innovation Summit at Natural Products Expo West 2026. Adrienne sits down with Matthew and Jasmin from Purplesful Snacking to learn about how the brand got started and why they chose purple corn for the product and what their experience has been while scaling a purpose-driven brand. Next, she interviews Michelle and Brian Platt of Jam Packd, a functional jam. The three discuss the experience of working with your spouse and how they’d like to grow the brand over the next five years. Thanks for listening to this week’s episode! For more video content, check us out on YouTube. Prefer to tune in via podcast? Join us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Thank you to our sponsors, Om Mushroom Superfood and Bimbo Bakeries USA. To learn more about them, visit their websites. In this episode: 0:27 – Thank you to our sponsor Bimbo Bakeries USA. 1:59 – Welcome to our guests, Matthew and Jasmin von Teichman from Purplesful Snacking. 2:56 – What’s the story behind the brand? 3:05 – Why did you choose purple popcorn? 3:11 – Matthew and Jasmin came up with the purpose before they settled on the product itself. 4:00 – A connection Matthew made at Expo West years ago helped spur the brand into action. 6:42 – The brand’s newest and 4th SKU was a NEXTY Award Finalist for Savory or Salty Snack. 9:06 – Do you foresee any trouble with maintaining your purpose-driven status while scaling? 10:38 – Thank you to our sponsor Om Mushroom Superfood. 11:22 – Welcome to our guests, the founders of Jam Packd, Michelle and Brian Platt. 11:45 – Michelle shares about the inspiration behind the brand. 12:40 – Brian shares what white space and innovation in the category excited them. 14:00 - Michelle and Brian discuss the product creation process and which trends the final product fits into. 16:25 – What was the process of getting the name trademarked? 17:28 – Jam Packd has three SKUs, and the Blueberry SKU was a NEXTY Award Finalist in 2026 for Best Functional Food or Beverage. 18:12 – Jam Packd wants to pioneer this new category over the next five years. 20:38 – What has the experience been working as a husband and wife team?

May 1, 202614 min

Sponsor Soundbyte with Om Mushrooms

Welcome back to The Natural List podcast! In this episode, we interview one of our sponsors, Om Mushroom Superfood. New Hope Network’s Content Marketing Director, Nancy Coulter-Parker, talks with the co-founder of Om Mushrooms, Dr. Sandra Carter, PHD, about how the brand got started and how the love of mushrooms is infused into new products. Thanks for listening! For more video content, subscribe to our channel on YouTube. If you prefer audio, find us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. In this episode: 0:20 – Welcome to our guest, Dr. Sandra Carter, PDH! 0:35 – Sandra explains her background, Om’s founding and tells us what prompted the name of the company. 1:59 – Why is using organic mushrooms so important to you? 2:45 – Om Mushrooms now has both USDA organic and Regenerative Organic Certified certifications. Is that rare in the supplement space? 3:44 – What’s the difference between using the root network (mycelium) and the fruiting body of the mushroom? 4:40 – Certain compounds can only be found in specific parts of the mushroom. It’s important to use the right processing format for the intended compound use case. 7:01 – The “mushroom kingdom” is 10x larger than the “botanical kingdom.” Om Mushrooms aims to highlight the differences in each mushroom specifically and how to best use those compounds to help people. 8:50 – Do you need to take mushroom products every day to feel the benefits? 9:20 – The mushroom kingdom has more similarities to mammal DNA than the botanical kingdom does with mammal DNA, which means mushrooms can better help modulate the human body. 11:02 – What is the biggest differentiator for Om Mushrooms in the market? 12:41 – Are there any upcoming trends or innovations you are excited to incorporate into the Om Mushrooms line?

April 29, 20269 min

The CPG brand’s guide to The Purpose Pledge

Welcome back to The Natural List podcast, your place for what’s new and what’s next in the CPG industry! This week, host Adrienne Smith interviews Les Szabo, chief strategy and impact officer at Dr. Bronner’s and Michael Ham, president and founder of Wild Orchard Tea Company, about the newly launched Purpose Pledge. According to the pledge, the Purpose Pledge is a collaborative initiative anchored in ten clear commitments that embed purpose into company governance, operations and supply chains. It brings together an ecosystem of companies and allied support organizations in a shared, accountable community, where members learn from one another and measure progress publicly and transparently. The Purpose Pledge launched in 2026 with 16 companies and aims to reach 25 by the end of the year. Along with these companies, 7 “commitment catalyst” brands joined to help mentor and guide Purpose Pledge companies through this journey. Les joins us from Dr. Bronner’s, the brand behind the Purpose Pledge, while Michael shares his first-hand experience of being one of the first 16 brands to enter the cohort. No one person, or brand, can make it through the CPG industry alone, and that couldn’t be more true for mission-driven brands. Listen now for a heartwarming and informative episode about brands making a positive impact on the planet--together. Watch here or on YouTube. Prefer audio only? Join us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Thanks for listening! Thank you to our sponsors Om Mushroom Superfood and Bimbo Bakeries USA! In this episode: 0:14 – Thank you to our sponsor Om Mushroom Superfood. 1:15 – Welcome to our guests, Chief Strategy & Impact Officer at Dr. Bronner’s, Les Szabo and Founder and President of Wild Orchard Tea Company, Michael Ham. 2:02 – What is the Purpose Pledge? 4:00 – What are some of the 10 commitments that fall within the pledge? 5:58 – Les highlights that the Purpose Pledge is not a certification; it’s a commitment and a learning community, and there is no cost to join. 7:00 – The Purpose Pledge is only for companies with agricultural-based supply chains, where Dr. Bronner’s sees the most impact can be made. 8:12 – Michael shares about his experience as one of the first Purpose Pledge companies and why he chose to join. 11:20 – Michael underscores the importance of governance to help buoy purpose-driven brands in the long-term. 12:13 – How does the Purpose Pledge support smaller mission-driven companies as they scale? 14:40 – The Purpose Pledge is holistic and that’s what makes it so transformative. 15:42 – Thank you to our sponsor Bimbo Bakeries USA. 17:55 – How does the timeline and progress tracking work for brands in the Purpose Pledge? 22:05 – Progress trackers are available for consumers to view for accountability. 24:00 – The Purpose Pledge aims to create an “ecosystem of support” with 25 brands in 2026, plus 7 commitment catalyst brands. 28:54 – Michael shares about how impactful the group of companies in the Purpose Pledge is, large and small. 34:00 Learn more about the Purpose Pledge on their website.

April 22, 202625 min

Is the industry ready for Regenerative meat?

Meat, like other protein-packed foods, has seen a resurgence in the past year. From steaks and chicken thighs to eggs and cheese, consumers are adding these items to their cart more than ever. In this week’s episode of The Natural List, host Adrienne Smith talks with two brands making our baskets better with sustainable, organic and Regenerative Organic Certified meat. First we set the scene: New Hope’s Content Marketing Director, Nancy Coulter Parker, provides background on the regenerative and organic markets. From Gen Z to Millennials, these younger consumers are the driving force in the natural and organic space. This primarily comes from a desire to “eat their values” and purchase products that align with their belief systems of transparency and animal welfare. Adrienne then interviews Kristina Walker, CEO and co-founder of StarWalker Organic Farms, whose ROC beef, one of 50 ROC SKUs, won a NEXTY Award in 2026. The duo discusses how important innovation is to the brand in keeping prices accessible while still providing high-integrity products. Then, we talk with Alicia LaPorte, senior director of communications and impact at Niman Ranch. Unlike StarWalker Organic Farms, Niman Ranch is a collective of organic farms across the U.S. Alicia shares about the process of transitioning farmers to Regenerative Organic Certification and emphasizes the benefits those farms have seen since the transition. Through these discussions, one thing is clear: The market is ready for ROC meat, and demand is growing daily. This week’s episode is a continuation of a series of interviews done at Natural Products Expo West 2026 in the CPG Content Creation Studio. For more interviews like this, watch here or on YouTube. Prefer to tune in via podcast? Join us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. 0:14 - Welcome to our guest, Nancy Coulter-Parker. 0:22 – Thank you to our sponsor Bimbo Bakeries USA. 1:24 – What’s happening with beef in the natural and organic sector? 2:08 – These age groups are driving organic and natural purchasing. 2:22 – Animal welfare and transparency are driving these purchases, so USDA Organic and Regenerative Organic Certification fit into these desires. 3:57 – Brands are not just organic, they’re leaning into the regenerative process and creating superior items. 6:49 – Interview with Kristina Walker, co-founder and CEO of StarWalker Organic Farms. 10:33 – Kristina talks StarWalker Organic Farms’ distribution model and expansion plan. 11:35 – StarWalker Organic Farms’ ground beef was a NEXTY winner in 2026. 14:40 – Thank you to our sponsor Om Mushroom Superfood. 15:27 – Welcome, Alicia LaPorte, senior director of communications and impact at Niman Ranch. 16:30 – Niman Ranch is a program that works with over 600 family farmers and ranchers across the country. 17:36 – Alicia tells us about Niman Ranch’s new ROC, an American farmer-grown product. 20:00 – Adrienne asks Alicia about the process of working with farmers to transition to ROC methods and what that experience has been like. 22:19 – Now is the right time for ROC beef to really take off with consumers. 24:30 – Changing shopping basket staples to ROC makes it easier to build a better basket.

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