The Copilot Connection

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Welcome to Copilot Connection , the podcast that explores the world of Microsoft Copilots! Join your hosts, Zoe Wilson and Kevin McDonnell, as they take you on a journey through the different Copilots available and how they can help you in your day-to-day life. From the newly launch date announced Microsoft 365 Copilot to the Dynamics 365, GitHub, Windows, Custom and more Copilots, we'll cover it all. Our upbeat and engaging conversations with experts in the field will keep you entertained and informed. Tune in to Copilot Connection and discover how these AI-powered assistants can transform the way you work! Want to be interviewed for the show? Sign up at The Copilot Connection: Call for Speakers @ Sessionize.com

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October 12, 2026Episode 4649 min

CCDev5 - One Copilot, Hybrid Intelligence and the Road to Ignite

A fter a longer-than-planned break, Kevin McDonnell and Garry Trinder are back to catch up on the latest developments across the Copilot and extensibility landscape. The conversation starts with reflections on recent community events including Scottish Summit and Microsoft’s Fly with Copilot tour before diving into a packed set of Microsoft announcements. The main focus is the evolution of the new unified Copilot experience, bringing together Home, Code and Autopilot into a single destination. Kevin and Garry explore what this means for users, developers and administrators, discussing the convergence of Copilot experiences, how Copilot Code relates to GitHub Copilot, and why governance is becoming a key part of the AI story. They also take a deep dive into Hybrid Intelligence, local and cloud model execution, managed execution containers, and the growing importance of balancing performance, privacy and cost. The discussion continues into Agent 365 updates, new cost management capabilities, spending policies, plugin registries, skills, MCP servers and what the future of Copilot extensibility might look like as Microsoft shifts towards a plugin-centric model. Finally, with Microsoft Ignite approaching fast, Kevin and Garry share thoughts on what to watch for, highlight a number of upcoming community events, and explain why the next few months could be some of the most significant yet for the Microsoft Copilot ecosystem. Along the way there are the usual detours into SharePoint, governance, dancing injuries, and perhaps a few more renames than anyone expected. Links Fly with Copilot - Global AI Community Introducing the new Copilot with Home, Code and Autopilot - The Official Microsoft Blog Satya post on Infinite SaaS Factory - Post | LinkedIn Building Windows for hybrid intelligence | Windows Experience Blog Project HydraFusion: Frontier quality via multi-model orchestration - The GitHub Blog What's new in Agent 365 - September 2026 | Microsoft Community Hub Introducing the plugin registry - one place to discover and govern plugins for Microsoft Copilot | Microsoft Community Hub https://powerplatformconf.com/ https://ignite.microsoft.com/ ESPC26 | Conference | 30th Nov- 03rd Dec 2026 | Amsterdam - ESPC

August 14, 20261 hr 4 min

Ep 45 - Harnesses, budgets and yet another rename

The first episode after a quiet summer, and the thread running through all of it is cost and renames. Kevin opens with a confession: he spun up Cowork to write these very show notes, it ran out of budget overnight, and once he topped the budget up it burned through 2,381 credits, which he puts at twenty to thirty quid for maybe a fifth of what he wanted. That story turns out to be the episode in miniature, because Copilot Studio GitHub Harness has gone generally available in August based on a usage-based credit model, and this time the meter runs while you are still building. Around that we have another rename and a flattened logo, Microsoft's FY26 Q4 results with over thirty million paid Copilot seats, a leaked memo saying the AI app group has to earn the right to exist, a proper argument about whether 43 minutes a day is still how we talk about value, and a long run through the autumn events season. Plus AI slop, blue rings, and a festival planning app nobody asked for but made all the difference. Links: https://www.howmanyblueringsshouldihave.com/ https://amireallyadualawardmvp.com/ https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/copilot-studio-blog/more-powerful-agents-and-workflows-for-autonomous-business-processes-introducing/4542969 https://microsoft.github.io/mcscatblog/posts/copilot-harness-cost-governance/ https://futurework.blog/2026/08/14/microsoft-copilot-app-one-app-new-name-new-icon-new-url/ https://robquickenden.blog/2026/08/copilot-unified-app/ https://office365itpros.com/2026/07/30/fy26-q4-microsoft-results/ https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7490143154260701184-rlGF https://www.linkedin.com/posts/maryleenemeric_microsoft-microsoft365-copilotstudio-activity-7485892013830266880-rUJI Events: https://ainativeworkplace.com/ https://www.collabdays.org/2026-bletchleypark/ https://www.scottishsummit.com https://espc.tech/conference/espc-2026

June 26, 2026Episode 4439 min

Ep 44 - FinOps Comes to Copilot and Cowork

This week on The Copilot Connection , Kevin and Zoe dive into the growing impact of FinOps and tokenomics in the Copilot era. From insights at Commsverse to real-world concerns, we explore how tools like Copilot and Cowork are shifting organisations from fixed licensing to consumption-driven models - bringing both opportunity and uncertainty. The discussion focuses on balancing cost vs value , the importance of governance and guardrails , and why organisations must carefully pilot AI usage rather than roll it out blindly. They also highlight the challenge of helping users choose the right tool for the right task without driving up unnecessary costs. Useful links: Cowork cost management overview — https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/copilot/usage-based-billing-manage-copilot-credits Cowork Cost Estimator - https://aka.ms/CustomerCoworkEstimator Cowork Adoption site - https://adoption.microsoft.com/en-gb/copilot/cowork/ai-user/ Cost management demo - https://demos.microsoft.com/app/present/6694#/0/0 An unsuspecting bill - https://www.reddit.com/r/copilotstudio/comments/1ueqedl/woke_up_to_a_47k_bill_after_deploying_one_copilot/ More on unsuspecting bills - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/peter-sabapathy-71a88145_a-post-on-reddit-this-week-described-someone-share-7475913687963467778-xsXa

June 19, 2026Episode 431 hr 7 min

Ep 43 - Build 2026 Recap

In this episode of The Copilot Connection , Kevin McDonnell and Garry Trinder dive deep into the biggest developer-focused announcements coming out of Microsoft Build—and what they actually mean in practice. We unpack a fast-moving couple of weeks in AI, from the shift in how Microsoft shares Build news (goodbye Book of News , hello live blog and CLI tooling), to the hands-on, lab-heavy focus that signals a return to Build’s developer roots. Expect plenty of perspective on what stood out, what worked, and what felt different this year. The conversation then turns to one of the headline releases: Copilot Cowork now generally available . Kevin and Garry explore how Cowork changes the way we interact with Copilot - moving from simple chat to task-driven, cloud-executed workflows with deeper Microsoft 365 integration. They share real-world usage patterns, from daily task triage to cross-device workflows, and discuss the impact of its new consumption-based pricing model (and why “value over tokens” is the mindset shift we all need). From there, they step into the more experimental space with Microsoft Scout —a local, autonomous agent inspired by OpenClaw that introduces concepts like heartbeats, browser automation, and powerful extensibility. The duo compare Scout vs Cowork, weighing up local vs cloud agents, flexibility vs control, and the growing importance of governance as agents gain more autonomy. Useful Links https://build.microsoft.com/ Build Live Blog Build Blog - be yourself at work Build Next Steps GitHub Repo Cowork GA The Cowork Cookbook (community link) Microsoft Scout Work IQ GA Work IQ Licensing Windows Platform Security Project Solara Surface Laptop Ultra Surface RTX Spark Dev Box

May 18, 2026Episode 4242 min

Ep 42 - What to watch at Build with Cowork and Claws in between

Kevin McDonnell and Zoe Wilson are back, kicking off this episode with a lively wander through Copilot Cowork in preview — from using it on mobile (sometimes unintentionally…) to early thoughts on skills, plugins, stability, and why data residency still matters if you’re experimenting in the real world. Along the way, there are opinions, tangents, and a few “this is cool, but…” moments that will feel very familiar to anyone testing Copilot right now. The conversation then jumps ahead to Microsoft Build , where agents, observability, and the growing obsession with value and ROI take centre stage. Kevin and Zoe unpack why business goals matter more than shiny dashboards, how Agent 365 fits into the picture, and what all this means for teams trying to move from curiosity to confidence with AI — all wrapped up with event shout‑outs, future episode teases, and the usual friendly chaos

April 4, 2026Episode 4148 min

Ep 41 - Cowork and Agent 365

This week, Zoe and Kevin dig into Copilot Cowork and Agent 365. Fresh from a week at the Microsoft campus in Seattle, Kevin shares his key takeaways from MVP Summit — including a surprising amount of cross-product collaboration and a hands-on experiment building a conference bingo app entirely using GitHub Copilot's coding agent. Zoe and Kevin then dive into two of the biggest recent announcements: Copilot Cowork, now available in Frontier tenants, which takes Copilot from answering questions to actually taking action on your behalf, from organising your inbox to scheduling your week and creating reusable skills; and Agent 365, Microsoft's control plane for agents, launching on 1 May, which brings observability, governance, and threat protection for all your agents in one place. They also cover the practical steps to enable Cowork in your tenant, the current data residency considerations for European organisations, and the open licensing questions still to be resolved before general availability. Useful links: Lab that Kevin mentioned https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-agent-lab-soc-ops kevmcdonk/mvp-summit-bingo: Web app for MVPs to track all those common phrases we hear over the week. Who will get bingo first https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2026/03/09/copilot-cowork-a-new-way-of-getting-work-done Get started with Copilot Cowork (Frontier) | Microsoft Learn Microsoft Agent 365 documentation | Microsoft Learn

March 22, 2026Episode 4054 min

Ep 40 - diving into Copilot Wave 3

Microsoft helped us make an episode this week but dropping some big Copilot news! In this episode, Zoe and Kevin dig into some of the news related around Copilot Wave 3, talk about what the recent org changes at Microsoft will mean and also highlight some of the upcoming events going on. Useful links: Zoe and Kevin keynote the Copilot Community Conference - Copilot Community Conference 2026 Experts Live UK Scottish Summit Call for speakers for Scottish Summit still open Rajesh Jha retiring Copilot Leadership Team Frontier Suite Copilot Wave 3 SharePoint at 25 Copilot Cowork

February 20, 2026Episode 3939 min

Ep 39 – Closing the AI Implementation Gap with Diana Wolfe

In this episode of Copilot Connection, Zoe and Kevin are joined by Diana Wolfe, Head of Research & Strategy at Kyndryl, to explore one of the biggest challenges facing organisations today: the widening gap between AI ambition and AI implementation. Together, they unpack why so many companies struggle to realise value from AI investments, what human‑centred change looks like in an era of agentic AI, and how trust, psychological safety, and redesigned roles shape successful adoption. The conversation covers everything from workflow automation myths and cognitive overload to organisational silos, identity shifts, and the realities of embedding AI into everyday work. Expect thoughtful insights, a few laughs (including designer chickens and the underpants gnomes), and practical guidance on how individuals, leaders, and change practitioners can navigate the next phase of AI‑driven transformation. Tune in to learn why the future of AI isn’t just about technology—it’s about people, systems, and redefining what meaningful work looks like. Takeaways AI implementation requires a holistic approach The integration of AI technology presents multifaceted challenges AI adoption is evolving rapidly Human systems integration is crucial for responsible AI implementation

October 20, 202348 min

Ep 3 - the A-Z of Copilot from South Coast Summit

Send us a text After an exciting South Coast Summit, Kevin and Zoe sit down to discuss what has been happening in the news around Copilot and share the A-Z of Copilot with you. Power Platform Copilot GA https://powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/build-better-apps-faster-copilot-in-power-apps-is-now-generally-available/ Power Platform Prompt Library (pnp.github.io) Security Copilot EAP Microsoft Security Copilot Early Access Program is now available | Microsoft Security Blog Worklab How I Prompt: Leaders Share Their Favorite AI Time-Savers (microsoft.com) Satya end of year letter https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-annual-letter-leading-new-era-satya-nadella?utm_source=share&utm_medium=guest_mobile_web&utm_campaign=copy

April 8, 20246 min

Ep 12k - MVP Summit bonus with Angeliki Patsiavou

Send us a text Eleven of twelve mini episodes as we bring our interviews from MVP Summit. Interviewee today - Angeliki Patsiavou Angeliki sees copilot as a way to increase productivity, creativity, and innovation for individuals, teams, and organizations. She uses copilot for M365 to get technical content and learn about power FX queries and functions. Listen to find out about what concerns her around governance in Copilot. Angeliki Patsiavou | LinkedIn Angeliki Patsiavou 🎶 MVP Biz Apps (@a_patsiavou) / X (twitter.com)