The Bitcoin Collective

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Welcome to The Bitcoin Collective podcast with Jordan Walker. Are you sick of finance bros and techie nerds saying to learn Bitcoin but then leaving you high and dry? Don’t worry, I’ve got you. On this podcast, you’ll hear real, honest and relatable stories, news and guests from the Bitcoin space. Nothing techie and geared towards helping you understand and keep up with Bitcoin.

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May 27, 20261 hr 6 min

The Story of a Hotelier Who Discovered Bitcoin Nine Months Ago and Is Already Thinking in Sats | Nicholas Dickinson #224

Nicholas Dickinson bought his first significant Bitcoin stack on the all-time high. Three months later he was 40% underwater. He didn't panic. He read more books and bought more.Nicholas is a hotelier with 40 years in the industry — currently running a 50-acre country house hotel in Norfolk. He's also one of the newest, and arguably fastest-moving, members of the Bitcoin Business Network. In just nine months he's thinking in Bitcoin, buying at what the power law tells him is a 50% discount, and working out how to bring Bitcoin into a 40-year hospitality business without losing his board.🇬🇧 Find out more about the Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/In this episode, Jordan and Nicholas get into:- How The Price of Tomorrow started it all — before Nicholas even knew he was looking for Bitcoin- Why the power law gave him more conviction than anything else he'd read- The internal challenge of getting fellow stakeholders and a spouse on board- Why he thinks most people know the system is broken — but can't believe the fix could be this simple- What accepting Bitcoin at the hotel actually looks like as a first step- Why storing business cash reserves in Bitcoin is, to Nicholas, just common sense.TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro — "The problem's too big. Yes, there is a simple solution."01:00 Welcome and Nicholas's background in hospitality04:00 How Congham Hall came out of administration and became his longest-ever project06:00 What makes Congham Hall different — 50 acres, spa, orchard cabins08:00 The realities of running a profitable hotel in the UK10:00 100 local staff and why that's almost unheard of in hospitality15:00 The Snail Racing World Championships — a Guinness World Record20:00 Where did Bitcoin first come up? From drug dealers to deep curiosity21:00 The Price of Tomorrow, What's the Problem, and the lightbulb moment24:00 Pete Matthew, The Bitcoin Advisor, and getting properly into the rabbit hole28:00 Buying at the all-time high and what happened next31:00 The power law — why it gave Nicholas more conviction than anything else38:00 Thinking in sats, DCA strategy and filtering out the noise44:00 How Bitcoin changed his outlook on his kids' futures47:00 The challenge of getting stakeholders and a spouse on board51:00 "The problem's too big to be solved this simply" — and why that's wrong57:00 Accepting Bitcoin at the hotel — the vision and the baby stepsCONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT NICHOLAS:💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholasdickinson/Congham Hall - https://www.conghamhallhotel.co.ukEmail😉 - info@conghamhallhotel.co.ukREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice."The Problem's Too Big." Why Most People Dismiss Bitcoin Even When They Know the System Is BrokenWhy Nicholas Thinks Inflation Is the Real Problem — and Why Bitcoin Is the Only FixWhy a 40-Year Hotelier Is Selling His Buy-to-Let Portfolio and Putting It All in Bitcoin⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.

May 21, 202654 min

What Would a Bitcoin-Native Bank Actually Look Like? | Piotr Bedkowski #223

The pound has lost 95% of its purchasing power since 1971. Every fiat currency in history has eventually gone to zero. Bitcoin might be the first money that actually holds its value — and building the financial services around it is what Piotr, Product Manager at Xapo Bank, has spent years working on.In this episode, Jordan sits down with Piotr to explore:How Piotr Bedkowski went from ING Bank sceptic to fully orange-pilled BitcoinerWhy Xapo Bank only holds USD and BTC — and why that's a deliberate choiceThe case for borrowing against Bitcoin instead of selling itHow Xapo's underground vaults earned the nickname "Fort Knox of Bitcoin"Why rehypothecation of collateral is off the table at Xapo — full stopEarning yield and monthly Bitcoin income from your existing stackWhat the "iPhone moment" for global Bitcoin adoption might actually look likeWhy Bitcoin-backed lending rates should, in theory, be the lowest in the worldTIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro — Bitcoin is currency for the people01:00 Welcome and Piotr's background02:00 Joining Xapo Bank and building wealth products04:00 Bitcoin-backed lending and yield on Bitcoin06:00 Discovering Bitcoin twice — and why most people do09:00 Looking for the next Bitcoin (and why that's a mistake)10:00 Currency debasement — Argentina, Europe, and everywhere else13:00 The history of money and why fiat always fails17:00 What Xapo Bank is actually building and why19:00 Self-custody vs. custodial — meeting people where they are22:00 Inside Xapo's vaults — the Fort Knox of Bitcoin27:00 MPC security and why transactions are now near-instant32:00 How Xapo decides what products to build next38:00 Bitcoin-backed cards and what's coming42:00 Zero rehypothecation — and why it matters44:00 The iPhone moment and Bitcoin's next ten years48:00 Why Bitcoin-backed lending rates should be the lowest🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT PIOTR:💬 X: http://x.com/piotrbed💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/piotrbedk/READ OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.Borrow Against Bitcoin Without Selling a Single Sat — Xapo Bank's Product Manager Explains HowWhy Every Fiat Currency Eventually Goes to Zero — and What Comes NextBitcoin-Backed Loans, Yield, and the Future of Money With Xapo Bank⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.

May 14, 202659 min

The Plan to Put a Bitcoiner in Every Boardroom on Earth | Scott Ellam #222

What if every executive recruiter on the planet became a Bitcoiner? That's not a thought experiment, it's Scott Ellam's actual plan.Scott is back on the show six months after taking XCE public. He breaks down how XCE is solving the three biggest problems facing private recruitment companies — cash leakage, scaling headcount, and the near-impossible exit — by structuring the entire business around a Bitcoin treasury.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT SCOTT:💬 X: https://x.com/btconlyscott💼 LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/scott-p-ellam-5a097449Topics covered:- Why XCE presented at Bitcoin 2025 in Las Vegas as the first traditional operating business built around an active Bitcoin treasury- Accepting 0.516 Bitcoin as payment for a recruitment fee — and what comes next- How Adam Back has followed on through multiple raises, including a recent equity raise where 100% went into Bitcoin- XCE's performance-based equity scheme and how it's already attracting staff who aren't even Bitcoin-native- AI in executive recruitment — what it can do, what it can't, and why person-to-person roles may be the safest careers going forward- International settlement pain, stablecoins, and where Bitcoin fitsTIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro — Disrupting global executive recruitment with Bitcoin01:00 Welcome back: six months since the pre-IPO episode01:30 Bitcoin 2025 Las Vegas — what the conference felt like03:00 Who was in the room: institutions, nation states and Michael Saylor05:30 XCE's Vegas presentation: the first Bitcoin-treasury operating business06:30 The three biggest problems for private recruitment companies08:00 How XCE solves cash, scale and exit using Bitcoin10:00 Educating the recruitment industry on Bitcoin13:00 How private owners can join the XCE group without needing to self-custody17:00 Talent retention: Bitcoin-backed equity and the IPL analogy21:00 How XCE attracted staff who weren't Bitcoin-native28:30 Accepting 0.516 BTC as a recruitment fee — how it happened33:30 International settlement, stablecoins and Bitcoin rails38:00 The latest raise, Adam Back's continued backing and what's next41:30 AI inside XCE — from negotiation training to full business integration49:00 The K-shaped AI recovery and why high-skill careers will pull ahead55:00 Roadmap: growing Bitcoin per share, acquisitions and global disruptionREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.The Plan to Put a Bitcoiner in Every Boardroom on EarthHow a UK Recruitment Company Is Using Bitcoin to Disrupt a Global IndustryHow to Use Bitcoin to Solve the Three Biggest Problems in Recruitment⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.

May 7, 202650 min

Why the UK Is Drifting on Bitcoin, And How to Fix It | Ben Cousens #221

The UK has the talent, the capital, and the financial infrastructure. So why are Bitcoin founders still hesitating?Ben Cousens — Chief Strategy Officer at ZBD, co-founder of Antidote, and one of the few people who’s been backing Bitcoin businesses from inside venture capital — joins Jordan on the rooftop at Antidote’s Hatton Garden space to get into it.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here:https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT BEN:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencousens/Website: https://antidotebtc.com/TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro — The UK Is Drifting, Not Falling Behind01:37 Ben’s Background — Video Games, Film and a Hard Pivot to Finance03:00 How Ben First Encountered Bitcoin04:15 The Hairdresser Top Signal and Selling at the 2017 Peak06:25 Top Three Video Games of All Time08:24 Getting Sign-Off to Research Bitcoin Inside a VC Fund09:33 Building a Bitcoin Investment Thesis at Lake Star11:15 What Is ZBD and How Does It Work?15:59 ZBD’s $40M Series C19:29 What People Get Wrong About Building Bitcoin Businesses25:15 The Moment Ben Decided to Found Antidote28:31 The UK Isn’t Falling Behind — It’s Drifting33:32 What Kind of Founders Is Antidote Looking For?38:48 How Early Do You Need to Be to Apply?41:50 Why Antidote Is Based on Hatton Garden49:53 Where Does Ben Want Antidote to Be in Five Years?READ OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.

April 30, 202656 min

This Is What Bitcoin Adoption Actually Looks Like | Will Reeves #220

A fast food chain integrated Bitcoin payments in a matter of weeks, and same-store sales went up 10%. That’s not a marketing stunt. That’s the flywheel starting to turn.Will Reeves, CEO of Fold, joins Jordan to break down what Bitcoin adoption actually looks like for businesses right now — and why the companies moving early are building advantages that will be almost impossible to close later.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here:https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT WILL:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/will-reeves/Website: https://x.com/willreevesTIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro — Every Business Activity Should Earn You Bitcoin01:00 What Is Fold and How Does It Work?06:00 Bitcoin Rewards — Meeting People Where They Are10:00 Why Most People Get Into Bitcoin Through Skin in the Game15:00 Will’s Personal Bitcoin Origin Story20:30 Fold for Business — How It Started24:00 The Steak and Shake Bitcoin Bonus Programme28:00 Will Businesses Start Rewarding Customers in Bitcoin?32:00 Why the Infrastructure Flywheel Is Finally Ready36:30 The Supply Chain Effect — Bitcoin Daisy-Chaining Through Industries46:00 Fold Is Not a Bitcoin Treasury Company — Here’s Why49:30 “Bitcoin Is Not the Goal. The Life It Enables Is.”54:00 What’s Coming Next for Fold and Bitcoin Business AdoptionREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.

April 15, 20261 hr 3 min

Why This Non-profit Started Accepting Bitcoin | Dr Sheela Sharma #219

A nonprofit in West London is accepting Bitcoin donations to fund the next generation of entrepreneurs — and it all started with one conversation at a judging panel.Sheela Sharma is CEO of Portobello Business Centre, a 30-year-old nonprofit that helps underserved entrepreneurs — 70% of them women — start and grow their own businesses. Before that, she spent 14 years in investment banking, including as an equity analyst at Merrill Lynch covering medical devices and pharma. She came in knowing nothing about finance. She left as a COO.🇬🇧 Portobello Business Centre are members of BBN. Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/Contact Sheela:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-sheela-sharma/Website: https://www.pbc.co.uk/00:00 Opening clip — Bitcoin donations for entrepreneurs00:40 Introduction and welcome01:30 From Oxford DPhil to Merrill Lynch — the unlikely pivot03:30 Learning to value medical technology companies05:30 "What is a share price?" — the interview moment06:30 14 years in investment banking: analyst to COO07:30 Why she left — and what pushed her out08:30 Joining Portobello Business Centre as chair, then CEO10:00 The brands PBC has supported — Innocent Drinks, Charlie Bigham's, Karen Millen12:00 Why PBC started accepting Bitcoin14:00 Getting set up: Strike, Coin Corner and the Sustainable Society Trust16:30 Understanding Bitcoin six months in19:00 The utility of Bitcoin as a payment and store of value21:00 Financial education in the UK — what's missing24:00 Should entrepreneurship be taught in schools?27:30 The scrunchie business — born at age 1131:00 Roberta Huntington, Vinted and the power of simple ideas34:00 Entrepreneurship as mindset — can it be taught?39:00 The businesses PBC supports today44:00 Why storytelling wins pitches45:00 B Corp certification explained48:00 The Bitcoin and B Corp community overlap53:00 Bitcoin's future role in funding early-stage entrepreneurs59:00 One piece of advice for anyone thinking about starting a businessLISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.

April 7, 202657 min

Building the UK's Biggest Bitcoin Treasury Company | Andrew Webley #218

Andrew Webley is back for episode three. Since we last spoke in July, Smarter Web Company has achieved its London Stock Exchange main market listing, entered the FTSE All Share and FTSE Small Cap indices, grown its Bitcoin stack to nearly 2,700 BTC, and completed an acquisition that has grown revenue by roughly 10x. Not bad for a bear market.Jordan sits back down with Andrew to find out what's next, what Saylor told him at Strategy World, why he believes a Bitcoin treasury company will one day be the biggest company in the UK, and what a UK income equity product could look like.🇬🇧 The Smarter Web Company are members of BBN. Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coFOLLOW ANDREW:X: https://x.com/asjwebleyWebsite: https://www.smarterwebcompany.co.uk/CHAPTERS:00:00 Coming up00:34 Andrew returns to the podcast02:15 Why bear markets help builders02:58 What SWC achieved in the last six months03:48 FTSE index inclusion and what it means05:19 Share price vs MNAV frustration07:22 What shareholders should track instead of price08:44 Why treasuries can beat ETFs over time13:20 The three education jobs SWC must do15:44 What Andrew saw at Strategy World22:26 Debanking still holding the UK back25:27 Everything slowly then suddenly28:19 Next milestones FTSE 250 and beyond34:39 What the LSE listing changed with institutions38:07 Stretch and the idea of UK income equity45:19 Why the operating business mattersREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.

March 25, 202651 min

Debanking Is Driving Business Out of the UK | Keith Grose #217

The UK says it wants to be a global crypto hub. But banks are still closing accounts for anyone who touches Bitcoin, stablecoin holding caps are being proposed, and a Bitcoin ETN U-turn is threatening to force retail investors to lock in losses. So is the UK actually serious, or just saying the right things?Keith Grose, CEO of Coinbase UK, joins Jordan Walker to give his honest take on where the UK stands, what's going wrong, and what needs to change.Available now on YouTube and all podcast platforms.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT KEITH:X: https://x.com/kmgroseLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithgrose/Chapters:00:00 Intro and why banking apps will add crypto00:49 Keith joins the show01:19 Keith’s role as CEO of Coinbase UK02:13 Is the UK serious about being a crypto hub03:30 Keith’s background in payments infrastructure05:22 UK vs US on innovation and regulation08:17 What the UK must do to stay competitive09:24 Fixing regulatory clarity and stablecoin rules10:03 The UK culture shift around investing12:18 Coinbase equities and why investing habits matter13:47 Debanking in the UK why it’s still happening15:51 Two types of debanking and why both matter21:50 Stablecoins and Lightning practical use cases26:21 How banks are reacting behind the scenes30:50 Why institutions are moving faster than retail35:32 The stablecoin holding cap problem in the UK39:22 The Bitcoin ETN ISA mess and shifting goalposts42:05 Making Bitcoin a normal long term holding47:54 What a pro innovation UK framework looks like51:00 Closing thoughts and wrap upREAD OUR NEWSLETTER: https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.

March 18, 202658 min

Why Treasury Companies Need Lightning | Dave Lund #216

Most Bitcoin treasury companies are sitting on their Bitcoin and paying custody fees. But there's a way to make that Bitcoin work, earning native yield on the Lightning Network, without giving up your keys or taking on counterparty risk.Dave Lund, co-founder of FlowRate, joins Jordan Walker to break down one of the most underexplored business models in Bitcoin right now, and why treasury companies may be the key to unlocking the Lightning Network's next phase of growth.Available now on YouTube and all podcast platforms.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT DAVE:X: https://x.com/davelund_Flowrate: https://www.flowrate.com/ Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up00:31 Welcome and why Lightning matters01:13 Dave’s background and why he built Flowrate03:12 Swedish Bitcoin Association and Lightning growth04:37 Bitcoin as asset vs money and why payments matter08:51 Utility argument and why Lightning unlocks adoption10:53 What Flowrate is and the Lightning “ISP” analogy19:29 How Flowrate works with treasury companies27:11 Liquidity leasing explained for businesses34:00 The inbound liquidity problem and why it blocks adoption42:30 Security trade-offs and how to deploy safely54:02 ARK and what comes after Lightning55:30 Closing thoughts and follow-up planREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.#Bitcoin #Flowrate #lightningnetwork The Lightning Network Business Model Nobody Is Talking AboutThe Bitcoin Yield Strategy Most Treasury Companies Haven't Tried YetHow to Earn Yield on Bitcoin Without Giving Up Your Keys

March 11, 202655 min

Inside Strategy: How the World's Biggest Bitcoin Company Actually Works | Chaitanya Jain #215

CJ, part of the Bitcoin team at Strategy, joins Jordan to explain what’s really happening behind the company’s new preferred equities — and why Stretch is becoming a headline product.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT CJ:X: https://x.com/CJ_BitcoinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jainchaitanyaCHAPTERS:00:00 Intro00:51 CJ’s role on Strategy’s Bitcoin team02:12 What CJ does day to day05:25 Behind Saylor’s messaging and Strategy’s content08:34 What CJ has learned working closely with Saylor11:22 Why Strategy uses AI so aggressively14:21 How the Bitcoin and software sides fit together17:07 Strategy’s model explained (Jesse Meyers graphic)24:27 What Stretch is and why it exists27:27 How Stretch helps Strategy buy more Bitcoin31:07 How the dividend rate gets set and adjusted34:43 Stretch vs stablecoin yield38:44 Why Stretch could be Strategy’s “iPhone moment”41:41 Who can copy this model and why size matters44:46 Building products on top of Stretch outside the US46:28 A UK bank product backed by Stretch47:48 Why it’s attractive for businesses holding cash50:07 Why “Bitcoin for corporations” may now be Stretch52:53 Where to learn more and what’s coming nextREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.