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11

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May 2026

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”Saving the world from bad software” - a groundbreaking podcast series that delves into the rapidly evolving world of software testing. Join us as we navigate the cutting-edge technologies, methodologies, and practices that are shaping the future of the testing landscape. In this captivating series, we’ll be featuring thought leaders, industry experts, and practitioners who are at the forefront of innovation in software testing. Our engaging conversations will cover topics such as: 1️⃣ Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning: Discover how AI and ML are revolutionizing test automation, analysis, and generation, providing testers with powerful new tools and capabilities. 2️⃣ The Human-Machine Collaboration: Uncover the ways in which testers can leverage AI technologies like Keysight Eggplant Test to enhance their skills, boost productivity, and ensure the highest quality software. 3️⃣ Testing in the Age of Agile and DevOps: Learn how modern development approaches have transformed the role of testers and how they can adapt to remain essential in fast-paced environments. 4️⃣ Emerging Testing Strategies: Dive into the latest methodologies, such as context-aware testing and test-driven development, and explore their potential to improve test coverage and effectiveness. 5️⃣ The Growing Importance of Domain Knowledge: Discuss the significance of integrating domain expertise into the testing process and how AI can help testers gain valuable insights into specific industries. 6️⃣ The Ethical and Social Implications of AI-Driven Testing: Examine the ethical concerns and societal impact of AI in software testing, and envision a responsible and inclusive future for the industry. Don’t miss out on this thrilling journey into the future of software testing! Subscribe now to ”Test-Talks.com” and stay ahead of the curve as we redefine the boundaries of quality assurance. #TestingTomorrowToday #SoftwareTesting #FutureOfTesting #Podcast

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May 21, 2026Episode 112 hr 6 min

The Confidence Asymmetry Principle - Why 80% of future AI compute will be AI Verification (The Correlated Blindness Penalty Theory)

The Confidence Asymmetry Principle, AI Verification Economics, Correlated Blindness & When Code Generation Becomes Close to Zero - Confidence Becomes the Quality of the Product! For seventy years the scarce resource of software engineering was the production of correct code, and every methodology of the field was an attempt to manage that scarcity. Generative AI is dissolving it. The marginal cost of producing a plausible candidate program is collapsing toward a floor set only by the price of compute. AI is making software engineering radically cheaper to generate — but not necessarily cheaper to trust. In this episode, we explore The Confidence Asymmetry Principle, a working paper around Confidence Engineering Manifesto by Jason Arbon (2026), which argues that the real economic shift in AI-infused software is not the collapse in the cost of code, but the rising importance of the cost of confidence. As generative AI drives the marginal cost of producing software toward zero, a new constraint emerges: verifying that the generated artifact is correct, safe, reliable, and fit for production. The paper argues that generation and verification are governed by different cost laws — and those laws are now diverging. We unpack the core idea that in an AI software economy, code becomes cheap, but confidence becomes scarce. The conversation explores: Why verification becomes more expensive as generation becomes cheaper The three irreducible floors beneath verification cost: undecidability, execution, and interaction How Rice’s theorem and the halting problem shape the future economics of software testing Why “AI testing AI” can create correlated blind spots rather than genuine assurance The Correlated-Blindness Penalty and why independent evidence matters The Confidence Bound and the cost of reaching justified confidence Why verification compute may become the dominant workload of future AI compute How Confidence Engineering and AI Assurance emerge as practical responses to this shift The Confidence Asymmetry Principle the work of Jonathon Wright and Jason Arbon, in this episode reframes the AI engineering productivity revolution through a sharper lens: the bottleneck is no longer whether AI can generate software, but whether organizations can produce enough evidence to trust what it generates. The constructive consequence is not pessimism. It is that verification becomes the central discipline of software engineering, and that the discipline already has a name. Confidence Engineering — and its companion, AI Assurance — is the practice the Principle demands: justified confidence over performative coverage, decorrelated evidence over correlated convenience, continuous evaluation over static validation, a probability with an interval over a green check The next era of software will not be defined by who can generate the most code. By The Confidence Asymmetry Principle, generation is becoming free, and free things do not confer advantage. The era will be defined by who can justify confidence in what has been generated — at a known residual risk, on evidence whose independence can be exhibited and audited. When code becomes free, confidence becomes the product. The work, and the compute, and the value, follow the confidence, #TestTalks #ConfidenceEngineering #AIAssurance #AgenticAI #AITesting #QualityEngineering #TrustworthyAI #SoftwareTesting #LLM #AIConfidence #GenAI #AIVerification

May 21, 2026Episode 102 hr 30 min

World Digital Report 2026 - The Future of Quality Engineering - AI Confidence Engineering, AI Literacy & AI Assurance

AI adoption is accelerating at a pace few organizations are prepared for. In this episode, we dive deep into the findings of the World Digital Report 2026 — one of the most comprehensive global studies examining the intersection of AI, digital transformation, quality engineering, enterprise trust, and the future of work. Featuring insights and research from Jonathon Wright alongside contributors including Jason Arbon, Joel Deutscher, Alex Belotsky, Ben Daniels, Ethan Bhundia,  Milarna Parkerpayne, & Paul Gerrard this conversation explores what happens when organizations deploy AI faster than they develop AI literacy, governance, and assurance capabilities. We unpack some of the report’s most important themes: Why AI literacy has become the defining enterprise capability of 2026 The rise of Agentic AI and autonomous systems inside modern organizations How quality engineering roles are evolving from execution toward AI Confidence Engineering The widening gap between AI adoption and organizational trust Why prompt engineering, AI governance, and AI assurance are now business-critical The challenge of testing non-deterministic systems at enterprise scale How digital transformation is shifting from automation toward autonomous orchestration We also explore the broader implications of AI-powered productivity, enterprise confidence, software quality risk, and the future of human-machine collaboration as organizations move from experimentation into operational dependency on AI systems. From AI-generated testing and autonomous workflows to assurance engineering and organizational readiness, this episode examines the data behind one of the largest digital transformation shifts seen in decades. Because the question is no longer whether organizations will adopt AI. The real question is whether they can do it safely, responsibly, and with confidence. #TestTalks #WorldDigitalReport #AI #AgenticAI #AIAssurance #QualityEngineering #DigitalTransformation #AITesting #TrustworthyAI #GenAI #FutureOfWork

January 27, 2026Episode 91 hr 11 min

Agentic AI - Model Learning Based Testing (MlBT) - Digital Twin Testing (DTDL) meets Context Understanding (RARE / MIRAGE)

Test-Talks.com welcomes Karl McCarron an ML Architect at Keysight within the Eggplant AI R&D labs team in Cambridge, where he defines technical solutions and researches emerging AI technologies to advance the product's future vision in AI Agentic Testing. With a strong foundation in theoretical physics, having completed his MASt in Applied Mathematics from the University of Cambridge with Distinction and a First Class Master's in Physics from the University of Oxford, his work bridges advanced mathematical concepts with practical machine learning applications. His expertise spans from quantum field theory and particle physics to applied ML architecture, bringing rigorous analytical approaches to enterprise-grade intelligent automation. Join the Eggplant AI R&D Labs team as they boldly reimagine the future of software testing in this thought-provoking brainstorming session. Exploring everything from transforming legacy test assets into intelligent models to the emergence of "model learning testing," they tackle the hard question: how do we make testing more valuable in an AI-driven world? Dive into discussions about context engineering, agentic AI systems, digital twins, and why 90% of software testing might need a complete rethink. If you're curious about where testing is headed in 2026 and beyond complete with newly coined concepts like "software archeology" and "value-informed testing" this wide-ranging conversation is essential listening for anyone in QA, test automation, or software development.

December 30, 2025Episode 81 hr 9 min

AI-Assurance - Vibe Quality Testing of AI Infused Systems (feat. SureLine.AI)

Test-Talks.com welcomes Adam Sandman who has been working in the IT industry for the past 25 years in areas such as architecture, agile development, testing and project management. Currently Adam is the Founder and CEO of Inflectra Corporation, where he is interested in technology, business and enabling people to follow their passions. At Inflectra, Adam has been responsible for researching the tools, technologies and processes in the software testing and quality assurance space.  In this episode will be a world exclusive of SureLine.AI Go From Not Worrying About Your AI Agents to Knowing They are Safe, Reliable, and Effective: Ask SureLine™ to test your agent, like you were talking to an experienced test manager on your team. SureLine™ will design and implement dynamic tests, using collections of bespoke testing agents. It provides a report of the AI under test, highlighting strengths and weaknesses, risks, quality concerns, and more. SureLine™ is a whole new category of QA tool. Testing AI is not like normal testing. You can’t rely on traditional testing to really know the state of your AI. You need a quality assurance tool built from the ground up, that leverages AI to dynamically probe and test AI. You need SureLine™.

December 24, 2025Episode 71 hr 3 min

AI-Assurance - AI-Derived Vibe Quality Requirements Engineering (VARIED-Q)

Test-Talks.com welcomes Paul Gerrard legendary consultant, teacher, author, programmer, tester, conference speaker, rowing coach and publisher. He has conducted consulting assignments in all aspects of software testing and quality assurance, specializing in test assurance. He has presented keynote talks and tutorials at testing conferences across Europe, the USA, Australia, South Africa and won the most amount of lifetime achievements awards. In 2026, Context Engineering will be king, in this episode you will better understand DEFOSPAM an Vibe Requirements engineering approach to AI-in-the-loop (AIitL) to help create better requirements or stories, building on the success of the Business Story Method (published back in 2012) how can you utilize AI as a coach / mentor to help improve business requirements in 2026? #AIAssurance #automationtesting #testautomation #automationtesters #softwaretesting #functionalautomation #nonfunctionalautomation #testingcareer #e2eautomation #ai #aiintesting #autoops #aiaugmentedtesting #generativeai #AIAugmentedTesting #eggplantGAI #generativeAI

March 25, 2025Episode 61 hr 5 min

Agentic AI is not Generative AI (MCP/LAM/LLaVA/CUA vs LLM/NPU/NPG/GraphRAG) feat. Nico Carnaval

Dedicated to Tariq King the King of AI  As artificial intelligence moves beyond traditional automation and generative capabilities, ensuring AI’s reliability, transparency, and ethical integrity becomes a pressing challenge. This session introduces AI-Assurance, a new paradigm for validating and governing Agentic AI systems, which leverage Computer Use Automation (CUA), Chain of Thought (CoT), and GraphRAG architectures to enhance model-driven decision-making, self-learning, and adaptive agent-based CUA execution. Building on decades of advancements in cognitive engineering, AI and automation,, this talk explores how large action models (LAM), large vision models (LLaVA) and AI-driven software agents are redefining productivity & assurance across the software development lifecycle (SDLC). Attendees will gain insights into the evolution of building AI-infused system methodologies, the shift from traditional process automation to autonomous AI agents, and the role of governance models like ISO 42001 and AI risk compliance frameworks (AI TRiSM / ISO / NIST). Key topics include: Agentic AI and the Future of AI-Augmented Workflows – How AI systems move from passive assistance to active moral decision-making. GraphRAG and Chain of Thought Reasoning – How structured AI reasoning enhances software quality, transparency, and compliance. CUA and Large Action Models – The emergence of autonomous, neuro-symbolic, AI agents for real-time computer use execution. AI-Assurance in the Age of Regulation – Navigating compliance, ethical AI governance, and risk management frameworks. This session is essential for AI practitioners, modern software development, and business decision-makers seeking to integrate AI-Assurance governance into their AI-productivity or AI-workforce workflows while avoiding bans from emerging AI liability laws and EU AI Act compliance mandates.

January 31, 2025Episode 550 min

AI Assurance - Assuring AI Systems That You Can Trust (Agentic AI / Chain of Thought (Deepseek vs Operator)

Test-Talks.com welcomes Paul Gerrard legendary consultant, teacher, author, programmer, tester, conference speaker, rowing coach and publisher. He has conducted consulting assignments in all aspects of software testing and quality assurance, specializing in test assurance. He has presented keynote talks and tutorials at testing conferences across Europe, the USA, Australia, South Africa and won the most amount of lifetime achievements awards. You heard it here first AI Assurance is the future! Headlining DeepSeek AI Chain of Thought and how that differs from traditional OpenAI Operator and Anthropic Claude Computer Use. Watch out for more announcements on AI-Assure and AI-Assurance in the coming weeks! In the meantime check out this publication from the GOV.UK #AIAssurance #automationtesting #testautomation #automationtesters #softwaretesting #functionalautomation #nonfunctionalautomation #testingcareer #e2eautomation #ai #aiintesting #autoops #aiaugmentedtesting #generativeai #AIAugmentedTesting #eggplantGAI #generativeAI #SyntheticDomainExpert

January 24, 2024Episode 449 min

Gen AI The Final Frontier feat. Michael Ritchson from NASA

Michael Ritchson, 17 years NASA Developer, Innovator, Principal Engineer, Full stack developer who designs, and develops software solutions for the Aerospace and commercial industry. Winning NASA awards for exceptional space act in 2015. Starting his career for IBM back in summer 1997 following in his fathers footsteps. #automationtesting #testautomation #automationtesters #softwaretesting #functionalautomation #nonfunctionalautomation #testingcareer #e2eautomation #ai #aiintesting #autoops #aiaugmentedtesting #generativeai #AIAugmentedTesting #eggplantGAI #generativeAI #SyntheticDomainExpert #SentientTestExpert #TechOps

January 19, 2024Episode 345 min

Value-Based Testing - Shift Up (QEOPS) feat. Toby Marsden

The legendary @Toby Marsden who since 1994 toby has been revolutionizing the technology landscape as a strategic leader at companies such as Micro Focus, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, CA Technologies, CAST, Compuware and the last 5 plus years Keysight as part of the senior leadership team at Eggplant heading up global partnerships. Toby has over 25 years’ experience of understanding client needs, proposing solutions and helping customer achieve their goals through successful implementations. He has worked across sales, marketing and professional services roles for multinational software companies and start-ups. Over Toby’s career the way software has been developed and how we release applications has changed considerably, in fact the pace of change has been phenomenal, therefore we must help organisations adopt new ways of working and leverage technology but not compromise end user experiences and business value. For the last 15 years Toby has been focused on helping customers manage complex software delivery challenges by adopting automated delivery practices across the application lifecycle. He is currently part of Eggplant’s management team, which become part of the Keysight family in 2020 and provides AI Assisted Intelligent Test Automation. His is currently on a mission to is to develop a 1st class partner ecosystem that creates increased value to Keysight’s customers. #automationtesting #testautomation #automationtesters #softwaretesting #functionalautomation #nonfunctionalautomation #testingcareer #e2eautomation #ai #aiintesting #autoops #aiaugmentedtesting #generativeai #AIAugmentedTesting #eggplantGAI #generativeAI #SyntheticDomainExpert #SentientTestExpert #DevOps #AgileProjectManagement #ProjectPortfolioManagement #EnterpriseALM #EnterpriseArchitecture #RequirementsManagement #RequirementEngineering #ApplicationArchitecture #EnterpriseDatabaseDesign #EnterpriseModelling #SoftwareConfigurationManagement #ProcessAdoptionImprovements #ServiceVirtualization #ApplicationPerformanceManagement #QualityManagement #QualityTesting #MobileApplicationTesting

December 18, 2023Episode 237 min

Sentient AI Agents (Primer (Oracle / RLM), Architect, Sentient Control, Modal Agents) feat. Nico Carnival

Dive into our latest episode hosted by Nico Carnival interviewing the Automation Cyborg around the new AI-Augmented tool "Sentient AI Testing Agents". Uncover the game-changing potential the world's first Sentient AI Testing Agents using next generation technology for business, development & testing. 🔑 Highlights: Insights into next generation AI-Augmented Testing capabilities. Discussion on how AI is reshaping the holy grail of testing (requirements > testing > product). Future prospects of AI in tech innovation (LLM-RAG-GNN-8X7B). They discussed the changes in artificial intelligence, including advancements in AI augmented testing and generative AI. The conversation focused on generative AI and its potential applications, such as #AIAugmentTesting in different industries. Concerns were raised about the trustworthiness and privacy of public-facing GPTs (#BanChatGPT), as well as the importance of finetuning LLMs for specific domains and expertise. Jonathon raised the importance of #GNN (#GraphNeuralNetwork) by combining knowledge graphs into #RAG (#RetrievalAugmentedGeneration) architecture to improve understanding of complex systems. 💡 Gain invaluable knowledge about the power and possibilities of AI-Augmented Testing. Don't miss out on this enlightening conversation! Checkout this awsometastical podcast #GenerativeAI #AITesting #FutureOfTesting #SentientTester

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