Relai Bitcoin Podcast

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In the Relai Bitcoin Podcast we discuss the latest trends and developments in the world of Bitcoin. Relai CEO Julian Liniger interviews leading Bitcoin experts to answer some of the industry’s most pressing questions with the aim to educate listers about the world’s leading digital currency. Suchst du den Podcast auf Deutsch? Klick hier: <a href="https://relai.app/de/podcast/">https://relai.app/de/podcast/</a>

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July 15, 202649 min

The Current State of the Bitcoin Community, With Robin Seyr | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #127

Robin Seyr is the host of the Robin Seyr show and one of the hardest-working Bitcoin creators in the space. He is on the brink of reaching 900 episodes on this podcast and will eventually even hit 1,000 episodes later this year. In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Robin talks about his podcast growth, why he decided to double down on English content as a German native speaker. Where he sees the community is heading and what all the fuss is about with Strategy. You can follow Robin on X: <a href="https://x.com/RobinSeyr">https://x.com/RobinSeyr</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:53 - Why Robin built in English instead of German 11:47 - Entrepreneurial journey and first monetization 16:53 - Meeting Michael Saylor and setting up the main topic 19:32 - Robin's view on Strategy, Bitcoin, and the treasury model 33:38 - Is Strategy in trouble, or following the plan? 35:59 - Common equity Bitcoin exposure and why Robin isn't worried 43:27 - Bitcoin in self-custody vs. Strategy vs. Stretch 45:10 - Closing thoughts on scale and Bitcoin's role 48:55 - Outro — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: <a href="https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/">https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/</a> 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: <a href="https://relai.app/newsletter">https://relai.app/newsletter</a> 👀 Need help? Send us a message: <a href="https://support.relai.app/en/">https://support.relai.app/en/</a> Connect with us: Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/relai.app">https://instagram.com/relai.app</a> Twitter/X: <a href="https://twitter.com/relai_app">https://twitter.com/relai_app</a> LinkedIn: <a href="https://linkedin.com/company/relai">https://linkedin.com/company/relai</a> Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

June 22, 20261 hr 9 min

Bitcoin Is the Power Source of Every Company, with Michael Salyor| Relai Bitcoin Podcast #125

Michael Saylor is the founder and chairman of Strategy, formerly MicroStrategy. He is the permanent Bitcoin bull and best known for having turned around his firm with Bitcoin into a $100 billion company. In this live conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Michael discussed his path as an entrepreneur, what he would do today to start a new company, why Bitcoin is so vital for Strategy, and what digital credit actually is. The interview was recorded at BTC Prague. Make sure to grab your tickets for next year! <a href="https://btcprague.com/">https://btcprague.com/</a> You can follow Michael on X: <a href="https://x.com/saylor">https://x.com/saylor</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:25 - How were the early days of Strategy? 18:03 - What would Michael do as a founder today? 35:28 - What happens to Strategy if Bitcoin goes down another 50%? 49:37 - Why did Strategy sell 32 Bitcoin? 59:49 - What would Michael say to people calling the company a systemic risk to Bitcoin? 01:09:35 - Outro — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: <a href="https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/">https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/</a> 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: <a href="https://relai.app/newsletter">https://relai.app/newsletter</a> 👀 Need help? Send us a message: <a href="https://support.relai.app/en/">https://support.relai.app/en/</a> Connect with us: Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/relai.app">https://instagram.com/relai.app</a> Twitter/X: <a href="https://twitter.com/relai_app">https://twitter.com/relai_app</a> LinkedIn: <a href="https://linkedin.com/company/relai">https://linkedin.com/company/relai</a> Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

June 9, 202627 min

The Hidden Power of Bitcoin's Scarcity, with Jeff Booth | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #124

Jeff Booth is the author of “Price of Tomorrow” and one of the most well-known voices in the Bitcoin community. He’s also the Founding Partner at Ego Death Capital, a venture fund that supports Bitcoin companies. Full disclosure: Relai is a portfolio company of Ego Death Capital. In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Jeff discusses his take on the current Bitcoin market, why people, even die-hard Bitcoiners, are still pricing Bitcoin wrong, what effect the bear market has on you as an investor, and where things are going from here. You can follow Jeff on X: <a href="https://x.com/JeffBooth">https://x.com/JeffBooth</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - Navigating the Bitcoin bear market 08:18 - Understanding Bitcoin’s role in the financial system 16:25 - The illusion of wealth and the reality of money 24:21 - Bitcoin and the investment in the tech of the future 27:04 - Outro — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: <a href="https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/">https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/</a> 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: <a href="https://relai.app/newsletter">https://relai.app/newsletter</a> 👀 Need help? Send us a message: <a href="https://support.relai.app/en/">https://support.relai.app/en/</a> Connect with us: Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/relai.app">https://instagram.com/relai.app</a> Twitter/X: <a href="https://twitter.com/relai_app">https://twitter.com/relai_app</a> LinkedIn: <a href="https://linkedin.com/company/relai">https://linkedin.com/company/relai</a> Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

May 6, 202637 min

Why Europe's Future Depends on Bitcoin Adoption and Local Innovation, with Matyáš Kuchař | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #121

Matyáš Kuchař is the co-founder of BTC Prague, Europe’s biggest Bitcoin-only conference. Relai will also be a part of the event with our own booth and speakers. Not only is it a great event to attend because of Matyáš, but it’s also the place to learn more about Bitcoin. In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Matyáš discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he and his brother decided to launch BTC Prague, how the conference is doing 4 years in, and how the landscape surrounding Bitcoin has changed in the Czech Republic. You can follow Matyas on X: <a href="https://x.com/Matyas44Cook">https://x.com/Matyas44Cook</a> Book a ticket for BTC Prague and use code RELAI for 10% off: <a href="https://btcprague.com/">https://btcprague.com/</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:10 - The ripple effect of Bitcoin on society 06:17 - Europe’s current state and prospects 09:13 - Decentralization and the role of entrepreneurship 12:11 - Navigating the future with Bitcoin and technology 15:12 - The Bitcoin adoption in the Czech Republic 18:13 - Why community and networking are key for Bitcoin 21:15 - Highlights of the BTC Prague conference and what to expect 27:16 - Matyáš's personal Bitcoin experience and where to go next 30:18 - Conclusion, and final thought for viewers — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

March 31, 202636 min

Bitcoin's Evolution: From Wild West to Institutional Adoption, with Danny Scott | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #118

Danny Scott is the co-founder of Coincorner, a prominent Bitcoin exchange from the Isle of Man with a keen focus on Lightning, and the Chief Bitcoin Officer and co-founder of B HODL, where he drives institutional Bitcoin adoption through the treasury playbook. In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Danny discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to launch Coincorner and its Lightning Network integration, the challenges he faced with it, and why he decided to co-found a Bitcoin treasury company focused on native BTC yield. You can follow Danny on X: <a href="https://x.com/CoinCornerDanny">https://x.com/CoinCornerDanny</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:21 - Regulatory developments and the Isle of Man's pioneering AML compliance 04:47 - The decline of initial experiments with multiple coins and focus on Bitcoin 07:17 - Is Bitcoin still early? Perspectives from long-term holders 08:44 - Bitcoin’s adoption as a long-term store of value versus quick gains 10:37 - Comparing Bitcoin to the Internet and telecommunications infrastructure 14:02 - The potential for nation-state interventions and protocol changes 18:19 - Upcoming challenges: forks, governance, and institutional influences 20:24 - Current market sentiment, sideways trading, and long-term buying patterns 22:57 - Insights into Bitcoin treasury strategies and market influence 26:37 - The diminishing selling pressure from long-term Bitcoin holders 33:00 - Fundamentals of Bitcoin and its resilience through volatility 35:12 - Final thoughts on driving Bitcoin adoption and future industry developments — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

January 27, 20261 hr 0 min

Building a Citadel Mindset Focused on Bitcoin and Personal Growth, with Brad Mills | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #114

Brad Mills is a lifelong entrepreneur focused on product development and marketing. He has been involved with bitcoin since 2011 as a miner, entrepreneur, and investor, where Relai is one of his investments. He is very active on X and constantly orange-pilling his audience. In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Brad discusses his journey into Bitcoin, his fascination with citadels, and why he decided to engage more with the community. He also goes down the rabbit hole of his health developments and why this taught him a lot about life and Bitcoin. You can follow Brad on X: <a href="https://x.com/bradmillscan">https://x.com/bradmillscan</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:08 - Brad's due diligence and investment philosophy 06:15 - Personal growth and mindset shift 12:03 - Building a citadel mind and body 21:01 - Consistency and daily habits 28:42 - The journey of Brad's transformation 34:54 - Brad's battle of identities and self-reflection 41:47 - The lighthouse effect and what it teaches you 45:52 - Rethinking personal connections and relationships 49:27 - Highs and lows throughout life and Bitcoin 53:07 - Becoming the person and Bitcoiner you want to be — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

December 24, 202546 min

Exploring Bitcoin's Global Impact, with Stephan Livera | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #113

Stephan Livera is the host of the Stephan Livera Podcast and one of the most prominent Bitcoin podcasters in the space. He's also actively advising Bitcoin companies and is always a keen voice for Bitcoin debates on X. In this conversation with Relai CEO, Julian Liniger, Stephan discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to move to Dubai, how the MENA region is growing, when Bitcoin will become a medium of exchange, and how macro is influencing Bitcoin today. You can follow Stephan on X: <a href="https://x.com/stephanlivera">https://x.com/stephanlivera</a> And subscribe to his podcast here: <a href="https://stephanlivera.com/">https://stephanlivera.com/</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:30 - Stephan's journey into Bitcoin 05:00 - Experiences in Switzerland 06:11 - Bitcoin Adoption in Japan 09:13 - Dubai, the MENA region, and Bitcoin 15:00 - The tensions between Bitcoin and TradFi 17:57 - Medium of exchange adoption 20:00 - Institutional adoption and Bitcoin 23:51 - Rebalancing Bitcoin holdings 27:30 - Market Sentiment and price fluctuations 35:13 - Macro factors influencing Bitcoin's adoption 38:40 - Current landscape of Bitcoin treasury companies 43:00 - Outlook and Stephan's Bitcoin allocation — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

November 26, 202545 min

The Renewable Bitcoin Mining Revolution, with Kent Halliburton | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #109

Kent Halliburton is the CEO and co-founder of Sazmining. He has a background in the energy sector, especially the solar industry, and, out of curiosity, was introduced to Bitcoin. These days, he's building data centers for miners worldwide and working hard to make Bitcoin available to everyone. In this conversation with Relai's Head of Communications, Joël Kai Lenz, Kent discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he got started in the mining industry, what Sazmining stands for, how renewable energy will transform the industry, and what to expect in the future. You can follow Kent on X: <a href="https://x.com/khalliburton">https://x.com/khalliburton</a> Visit Sazmining’s website here: <a href="https://www.sazmining.com/">https://www.sazmining.com/</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:54 - The vision of Sazmining 05:57 - Renewable energy and mining 12:06 - Innovative ideas to use heat in mining 14:45 - Sazmining's business model and how they operate 21:05 - The community and role of Bitcoin miners in there 24:35 - Bitcoin mining model explained in simple terms 29:12 - Identifying key geographical hotspots in mining 34:03 - The future of energy sources and storage 39:02 - Innovations and future plans of Sazmining — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

November 19, 202549 min

Bitcoin Treasury Companies Deep Dive, with Patrick Heusser | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #108

Patrick Heusser is the Head of Lending at Sentora and one of the most established experts in Bitcoin in Switzerland. He has been writing about and researching digital assets for almost a decade and is keen on contributing to new financing models for the ecosystem. In this conversation with Relai's Head of Communications, Joël Kai Lenz, Patrick discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why Bitcoin treasury companies are interesting but require careful differentiation between early adopters and copycats, and how the space is expected to evolve. You can follow Patrick on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heusser/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/heusser/</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:10 - The revolutionary impact of Strategy 05:56 - Financial models in Bitcoin acquisition 09:01 - The role of retail investors in Bitcoin 12:08 - The future of Bitcoin treasury companies 14:46 - Metaplanet's unique use case as a treasury company 18:05 - Emergence of new Bitcoin treasury companies 20:53 - Market dynamics and the treasury hype cycle 23:58 - The importance of MNAV in treasury evaluations 27:04 - The risk of over-hyped treasury companies 30:14 - The future of potential Bitcoin banks 36:12 - Outlook on the future in the space 47:55 - Patrick's Bitcoin position in his portfolio — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>

November 12, 202545 min

Bitcoin Bonds Will Revolutionize the Financial World, with Pierre Rochard | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #107

Pierre Rochard is the CEO of the Bitcoin Bond Company and the host of the Bitcoin for Corporations podcast. He’s also one of the most vocal people out there on X about all things Bitcoin, bonds, and treasury companies. In this conversation with Relai CEO, Julian Liniger, Pierre discusses his journey into Bitcoin, what motivated him to join get into mining first and why he moved on from his role at Riot, what opportunities await us with Bitcoin bonds and why he is so bullish for the future. You can follow Pierre on X: <a href="https://x.com/BitcoinPierre">https://x.com/BitcoinPierre</a> And subscribe to his podcast here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@BitcoinForCorporations/">https://www.youtube.com/@BitcoinForCorporations/</a> — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:10 - Bitcoin all-time highs and conversations about it 06:16 - Retail vs. institutional investors in Bitcoin 12:15 - Self-custody vs. institutional custody 15:08 - The impact of the spot Bitcoin ETFs 24:21 - Mining strategies and what miners think like 32:42 - Financial engineering and Bitcoin bonds 38:08 - The future of private credit and Bitcoin lending — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066">https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066</a> 🎧Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44">https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44</a> -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. <h1 id="bitcoinfinanceinvestingrelaiappswissbitcoinstacksats21bitcoinbasicsbitcoineducation">Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation</h1>