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Medical billing tips for healthcare professionals — by healthcare professionals. This podcast is here to help private practices get paid what they’ve earned. We share real-world strategies for accurate coding, smoother billing workflows, and fewer denials — all from a team that’s been in your shoes. Whether you’re just getting started or trying to tighten up your revenue cycle, you’ll get practical advice you can actually use. Join the conversation in our Facebook Group: NatRevMD Learn more at www.natrevmd.com

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June 16, 2026Episode 18716 min

#187 How to Set Your Fee Schedule and When to Raise It

Show Notes Your fee schedule is a revenue ceiling. And for most independent practices doing over $3 million a year, that ceiling is set too low in ways that never generate a denial and never appear on a standard report. EP186 covers the five gaps that are quietly capping your revenue, the exact fix for each one, and three actions to run this week. Gap 1 — Billing Below Your Own Allowables: You negotiate a better payer contract. The billing system does not get updated. The payer pays what you billed, not what you are owed. A practice with 20 high-volume CPT codes averaging a $10 billing gap across 800 monthly claims is losing $8,000 a month, $96,000 a year, from a contract they already won. Gap 2 — Inconsistent Fee Schedules Across Locations: A secondary location runs on its legacy fee schedule from before acquisition. Location A bills $210 for a procedure. Location B bills $165 for the same code. A site doing 400 visits a month with a $35 average billing gap is under-billing $14,000 a month, $168,000 a year. Gap 3 — No Medicare Multiplier Anchor: Fees set by instinct drift downward every year while costs move in the opposite direction. The fix: anchor to 200–300% of the current Medicare allowable and recalculate every November when CMS publishes updated rates. Gap 4 — Suppressing Global Fees for Self-Pay Patients: A practice protecting 15% self-pay volume by keeping fees low inadvertently discounts 100% of encounters. 850 commercial patients billed $40 below the correct rate: $34,000 a month, $408,000 a year. The fix: raise the global fee schedule and implement a separate documented sliding fee scale for uninsured patients. Gap 5 — No Annual Fee Schedule Review: A fee schedule that is right in year one becomes the revenue leak of year five. A $4 million practice drifting 3% below where it should be loses $120,000 a year in collectible revenue. Over five years: $600,000. The Five Fee Schedule Gaps at a Glance: Billing below allowable → Payer pays billed charge, no alert → up to $8K/month Location fee inconsistency → Lower site appears compliant on reports → $3K–$15K/month No Medicare multiplier anchor → Fees drift, no logical update trigger → Compounds annually Artificially low global fee → Self-pay policy masks commercial discount loss → $5K–$20K/month No annual review → Costs rise, billed charges flat → 3–5% margin erosion per year Three actions this week: Run the top-20 CPT code comparison — billed charge vs. highest commercial contract allowable Anchor your fee schedule to the Medicare multiplier — recalculate for this year Put the annual fee schedule review on the Q4 calendar today — first week of November, billing manager named as owner Episode breakdown: 00:00 The fee schedule is a revenue ceiling 02:30 Why silence in billing costs more than denials 05:00 Gap 1: Billing below your own allowables 09:00 Gap 2: Inconsistent fee schedules across locations 13:00 Gap 3: No Medicare multiplier anchor 17:00 Gap 4: Suppressing global fees for self-pay patients 21:30 Gap 5: No annual fee schedule review 25:00 Three actions this week 29:00 Free resource + EP187 tease Resources Mentioned NEW LEAD MAGNET  Primary resource this episode: 30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan. Payment Posting Audit Checklist is tertiary. 30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrc/-30day-revenue-recovery-plan Book a free 30-minute call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 Payment Posting Audit Checklist (tertiary): eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist CMS Medicare Physician Fee Schedule: cms.gov (updated annually each November)

June 12, 2026Episode 18620 min

#186 The First Domino: Why Your Billing Problem Starts at the Front Desk

Most practice owners think their billing problem is a billing problem. It usually is not. The denial showing up this month started 60 days ago at the front desk. In this episode, Dr. Heather Signorelli sits down with Josh Sauter, President and CEO of Staffing First, to unpack why hiring is the first domino in your billing cycle, what it costs you when that domino falls, and how to think about staffing and revenue cycle as one connected system instead of two separate problems. SEGMENTS The first domino Josh's core insight: the front desk is where the billing cycle actually begins. A bad fit, a thin onboarding, or a missed training step upstream creates downstream denials 30, 60, 90 days later. The denials almost always look like a billing problem. They almost never are. The 30/60/90 day lag Why billing problems usually trace back to hiring decisions made a quarter ago. The eligibility check that did not happen on day 30 is the denial that lands on day 60 and the cash flow gap on day 90. The hire-slow trap Why saving money on staffing costs more in the long run. The wage gap pushing practices to underhire is the same wage gap pushing candidates out within the first year. Josh's view after 17 years: cheap hires are the most expensive line item in a practice. Coordinating front office and billing What it actually takes to make sure front desk failures do not kill claim throughput downstream. Weekly huddles between front office, billing lead, and the practice manager. Clear escalation paths for eligibility failures and payer changes. A billing partner that flags denial patterns back upstream instead of just working the claims. What a real staffing partner does differently Josh's process: 10 to 12 candidates interviewed for every order, top 2 to 3 sent to the practice. Deep questions about culture and not just skill. Behavioral health background applied to candidate screening. The practice manager gets the time back that they were burning on bad-fit interviews. REFERENCE TABLE: THE 30/60/90 DAY FRONT DESK LAG Timeline  | What happens upstream  | Where it shows up Day 0  | New front office hire, undertrained or wrong cultural fit  | Looks fine on the surface Day 30  | Eligibility checks missed, demographics keyed wrong, payer changes not caught  | First denials start landing Day 60  | Patterns compound, claim rework volume rises, missed authorizations stack  | AR over 60 starts climbing Day 90  | Practice blames the billing department  | Billing partner gets fired and replaced, problem persists THREE ACTIONS THIS WEEK Pull your last 90 days of denials and tag every one that traces back to front office (eligibility, demographics, missing authorization). Patterns will reveal hiring or training gaps before they hit Q3 cash. Run one weekly 15-minute huddle between front office, billing lead, and practice manager. Cover the top three denial reasons that week. Every week. Book a 1:1 with Heather to map the front desk to billing handoff in your practice: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd/ RESOURCES 1. Book a 1:1 with Heather Signorelli, MD: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd/ 2. The 30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan: eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrc/-30day-revenue-recovery-plan 3. Talk to Josh Sauter at Staffing First: staffingfirst.net  |  jsauter@staffingfirst.net 4. Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard: eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 5. Payment Posting Audit Checklist: eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist 6. RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz: natrevmd.com/quiz

June 9, 2026Episode 18529 min

#185 What Happens to Your Wealth When the Practice Has a Bad Quarter

Most independent practice owners know the practice and their personal life are supposed to be separate. Separate entities, separate accounts, separate tax returns. Almost none of them have built the structural separation that makes that true when things get hard. EP185 covers the three systems that explain why one bad quarter in the practice becomes a personal financial event, and the firewall that stops it. System 1 — The Entanglement: No formal salary. No distribution schedule. Whatever is left in the business account goes home with the owner. In a good month: $40,000. Mortgage, 529, investment contribution. In a bad month: $14,000, covered with personal savings. The savings account does not come back as fast as the practice does. System 2 — The Bad Quarter Multiplier: The cascade that runs from a billing disruption straight through to the owner's personal financial decisions. Collections drop. Distribution skipped. Mortgage still goes out. Investment contribution paused. Operational decisions made under financial stress — delay the hire, pull back on marketing, hold off on the software upgrade that would have fixed the billing gap that caused the problem. That practice is always one bad quarter away from making decisions a wealthier version of itself would never make. The Cascade in Numbers: Payer delays 45+ days → Operating account drops → Owner stops paying themselves first Denial rate spikes 5% to 14% → $28K/month delayed or lost → Personal savings tapped for household bills Key provider unexpected leave → Volume drops 30% → No distribution for 60 days Contract renegotiation stalls → 90 days cash flow uncertainty → Investment contributions paused indefinitely System 3 — The Firewall: A market-rate owner salary that does not move with revenue. A distribution schedule tied to net profit after a defined reserve threshold. Personal savings that build independent of what the practice has on hand. In a bad quarter: the salary still goes out, the distribution pauses, and the operational decisions come from strategy instead of personal financial pressure. Referenced: Profit First by Mike Michalowicz — the formula flip that makes the firewall mechanical. Three actions this week: Calculate your real owner salary — what you would pay someone else to do your job Define your operating reserve threshold — one month of payroll minimum, two months standard Schedule a financial separation review with your accountant — ask what a 30% revenue drop does to your personal finances Episode breakdown: 00:00 The $380K practice that one quarter turns 03:00 The big idea: revenue is not wealth 06:00 System 1: The Entanglement 10:30 Working vs. broken — the same practice, two outcomes 13:30 System 2: The Bad Quarter Multiplier 17:00 The cascade and what it actually costs 20:00 System 3: The Firewall 24:30 Profit First applied to a medical practice 27:00 Three actions this week 31:00 Free resource + EP185 tease Resources Mentioned Payment Posting Audit Checklist (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 Book a free 30-minute audit call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz: natrevmd.com/quiz Book referenced: Profit First by Mike Michalowicz

June 5, 2026Episode 18421 min

#184 You Are the Most Expensive Person Doing $15 Tasks in Your Practice

Independent practices rarely lose money because the medicine is wrong. They lose it because the highest-paid person is buried in clerical work and the front desk is too deep in daily chaos to chase eligibility, fill cancelled slots, or collect patient balances. We sat down with Tim Boyle of Reva Global Medical to talk about medically trained virtual assistants, and where the recovered revenue actually comes from. The front-end gap Scheduling, eligibility, verification, and prior authorization are the number-one denial categories. A front-desk team in the middle of ringing phones and walk-ins cannot also run the strategic prep that prevents those denials. A dedicated VA can, and that is usually the first seat to delegate. The no-show math A practice can run 20% open availability from no-shows. Without someone working a waitlist to fill those slots, that is overhead the practice simply eats. A VA reaching out the day before, and pulling from a call list when a slot opens, both lifts the patient experience and recovers revenue. The back-end gap Statements go out, but nobody works them. A trained VA handles patient-balance collections and the AR backlog, using HIPAA-certified propensity-to-pay tools to make a genuinely hard conversation go as well as it can for the patient. Who not how Heather and Tim land on the same idea the most successful owners share: protect your zone of genius and delegate the rest. The framing comes from Who Not How by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy. Clerical work is the low-hanging fruit, and the first thing to hand off. How the right VA is hired Reva accepts roughly 5% of applicants. The practice interviews finalists one-on-one with Reva’s camera off, so the owner chooses who joins the team. SOPs are set up first, a client services manager reports daily or weekly, and the practice does not pay until the VA is trained and working. THREE ACTIONS THIS WEEK Download the 30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan and start working it from day one this week. Pull your no-show rate for last month and multiply it by your average visit value. That is your waitlist opportunity. List the three clerical tasks eating your day that do not require a clinician. That is your first delegation. EPISODE BREAKDOWN Tim’s path from pro hockey to healthcare sales Why revenue leaks at the front desk Letting go of control as a practice owner The hiring and training process (the 5% filter) Who Not How and your zone of genius Back-end collections and the tough patient conversation What it costs and what comes back RESOURCES30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan — eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrc/-30day-revenue-recovery-plan Book a Call with Heather — calendly.com/heather-natrevmd Payment Posting Audit Checklist — eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard — eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz — natrevmd.com/quiz Reva Global Medical — revaglobalmedical.com  |  Tim Boyle — Tim@revaglobalmedical.com Book referenced: Who Not How by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy

June 2, 2026Episode 18314 min

#183 How Multi-Location Practices Lose Revenue Between Sites, Part 2

Part 2 of our multi-location revenue series. If you haven't listened to Part 1 (EP182) yet, start there — the systems in this episode build directly on what we covered last week. EP182: Click hereToday we cover the two structural problems that let the Part 1 gaps stay open: front-end data inconsistency across sites, and the one role that either holds a multi-site practice together or lets it fall apart. System 3 — The EHR and Billing Disconnect: Different front desks develop different habits. One site verifies eligibility morning-of. The other verifies the day before. One collects copay at check-in. The other sends a statement after. A practice doing $120,000/month at Location B with a 20% authorization miss rate sends $24,000/month into billing with incomplete data. Some claims get caught in scrubbing. Some get denied. Some sit in a gray zone no one can explain at month-end review. Front-End Gap Reference: Authorization not captured → Denial or recoupment post-payment Insurance not updated at visit → Claim sent to wrong payer Copay not collected at check-in → Patient AR that rarely converts Eligibility verified day-of only → Coverage lapses missed pre-visit System 4 — The Office Manager Problem at Scale: Location A has a strong office manager who has been there since the beginning. Location B has whoever was available when the site opened. The metrics look similar on paper. The difference shows up in the denial rate, days in AR, authorization miss rate, and the number of times the billing manager has to fix something that should have been caught at the front desk. A $90,000/month site with an underperforming office manager loses an estimated $8,000 to $15,000/month in avoidable billing delays. That is $180,000/year from one seat filled with the wrong person. Three actions this week: Audit front-end protocol consistency — pull authorization miss rate and eligibility verification rate by site Run a site-level office manager assessment — KPIs only, not by feel Schedule weekly site-level KPI reviews — separate meetings, not consolidated Episode breakdown: 00:00 Series callback: the gap the report will not show you 02:00 The thread left open in Part 1 04:30 System 3: The EHR and Billing Disconnect Across Sites 08:00 The $24,000/month authorization miss scenario 11:30 Who owns the front-end protocol fix 14:00 System 4: The Office Manager Problem at Scale 18:30 The $180,000/year gap from one wrong seat 22:00 Who owns the accountability structure 24:30 Three actions this week 28:00 Free resource + next episode tease Resources Mentioned Payment Posting Audit Checklist (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 Book a free 30-minute audit call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz: natrevmd.com/quiz EP182 — Part 1 of this series: Link here

May 29, 2026Episode 18211 min

#182 How Multi-Location Practices Lose Revenue Between Sites, Part 1

You opened a second location because the first one was working. What no one told you: the moment you added that second site, you added a second set of revenue gaps. And most of them are invisible on a consolidated report. In Part 1, we cover the two most expensive gaps inside multi-location practices doing over $300,000 a month. Neither generates a single denial. They just show up as missing revenue no one can explain. System 1 — The Credentialing Gap: A provider sees patients at a new site before credentialing is finalized. The claims go out. The payer rejects them, or pays provisionally and recoups months later. One provider, 60 uncredentialed days, 15 patients per day at $180 per visit: $162,000 in claims at risk. The front desk who scheduled those patients had no idea. System 2 — The Shared Billing Problem: One billing team covers both locations. Denials get triaged by volume, not by site. The smaller location falls behind. Its AR days climb past 40, then 50. Six months of recoverable claims cross the timely filing window. A secondary site at $90,000/month with a 12% denial rate instead of the target 5% loses $6,300/month in unworked denials. Over a year: $75,600. That is the gap the report will not show you on a consolidated view. Three actions this week: Build your credentialing matrix (one row per provider, one column per location, effective dates visible) Pull a site-specific AR report — not consolidated, by site Set a site-level denial threshold and define what triggers an immediate review meeting Episode breakdown: 00:00 The revenue gap no consolidated report will show you 02:00 Why multi-location growth is a systems problem 04:30 System 1: The Credentialing Gap 09:00 The $162,000 scenario 12:00 Who owns the credentialing matrix 14:30 System 2: The Shared Billing Problem 18:00 The $75,600/year site-level loss 21:00 Who owns the site-specific AR report 23:30 Three actions this week 27:00 Free resource + Part 2 preview Credentialing Scenario Reference: 1 provider | 60 days | 15 pts/day | $180/visit = $162,000 at risk 2 providers | 30 days | 12 pts/day | $200/visit = $144,000 at risk 1 provider | 90 days | 10 pts/day | $150/visit = $135,000 at risk Resources Mentioned: Payment Posting Audit Checklist (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 Book a free 30-minute audit call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz: natrevmd.com/quiz

May 26, 2026Episode 18126 min

#181 4 Types of Leverage That Let Your Practice Make Money Without You

If you stepped away from your practice for 30 days, what would happen to your revenue? If the honest answer is "it would fall apart" — you don't have a scalable practice. You have a high-paying job with employees. In this episode, Dr. Heather Signorelli breaks down the four forms of leverage that separate practices that grow on their own from the ones that only move when you show up. The Leverage Framework: Form 1 — Capital Leverage: why it's the highest-risk, lowest-compounding form Form 2 — Labor Leverage: why 10x headcount creates 10x management complexity Form 3 — Code/AI Leverage: what $15K–$25K/month in avoidable billing losses actually looks like Form 4 — Media Leverage: the one asset that compounds while you sleep The Lion Sprint Framework: why sprinting beats grinding — and what your three sprints are this week Episode breakdown: 00:00 Opening question: what happens if you step away? 02:30 Leveraged vs. un-leveraged — the real 2026 divide 05:00 Form 1: Capital Leverage 08:00 Form 2: Labor Leverage 11:00 Form 3: Code/AI Leverage 14:30 Form 4: Media Leverage 18:00 The Lion Sprint Framework 20:30 Sprint 1: Policy Sprint (Media Leverage) 22:30 Sprint 2: Chart Closure Sprint (Code + Labor Leverage) 24:30 Sprint 3: Eligibility Training Sprint (Labor + Media Leverage) 27:00 Free resource + payer rule change teaseResources Mentioned Payment Posting Audit Checklist (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 Book a free 30-minute audit call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz: natrevmd.com/quiz

May 22, 2026Episode 18023 min

#180 Built to Last (Part 1) - Why Growing Practices Hit a Revenue Ceiling

The difference between practices that scale and practices that stall is not clinical skill. It is operational structure. And most practices doing $250K to $500K a month have already outgrown theirs. In this episode, Dr. Heather Signorelli breaks down the three root causes of operational chaos that keep growing practices stuck at a revenue ceiling they cannot break through. You will learn: Why ambiguity in roles costs you hard dollars in denied claims How running your revenue cycle on memory puts your cash flow at risk every single day Why unsigned charts are delaying tens of thousands in billing every month Three things you can do this week to assess exactly where you stand This is Part 1 of 2. Part 2 delivers the exact accountability chart structure, daily checklist templates, and provider productivity metrics to fix what Part 1 diagnoses. 📊 Free Payment Posting Audit Checklist (free, no sign-up): https://eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist📅 Book a free 30-min call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd

May 19, 2026Episode 17930 min

#179 Building a Practice That Runs Without You - The 5 Systems You Need

Most physician owners we talk to took a vacation last year and spent half of it answering billing questions on their phone. That is not a staffing problem. That is a systems problem. In this episode, Dr. Heather Signorelli walks through the five operational and financial systems that allow a practice to generate and protect revenue without the owner acting as the lead biller, the collections manager, and the operations director all at once. You will learn: How to take clinical knowledge out of one doctor's head and turn it into practice-wide standards How to get daily financial visibility without waiting 30 days for a CPA report How software hard-stops protect revenue even when your best staff member quits How to benchmark provider productivity without having awkward conversations How to give managers real decision-making authority without losing control of your margins 📊 Free Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (takes 3 minutes, free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 📅 Book a free 30-min call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd

May 15, 2026Episode 17819 min

#178 The 4-Step Audit That Exposes What Your Billing Team Is Missing

What if the biggest revenue leak in your practice isn’t a denial or a payer contract problem - it’s the person processing your payments? In this episode, Dr. Heather Signorelli breaks down the four-step payment posting audit we run on every practice we onboard - and why practices doing $300K+ a month are routinely losing $8,000 to $25,000 of it to undetected posting errors. You’ll learn: • How to catch unapplied patient payments before they generate angry calls • The ERA spot check that exposes systemic contractual adjustment errors • How to find payer underpayments before your billing team writes them off • The write-off audit that protects your revenue from unauthorized adjustments This is the final episode in our four-part payment posting series. If you’ve been following along, you now have more visibility into your revenue cycle than most practice owners ever get. 📊 Free Payment Posting Audit Checklist: https://eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist📅 Book a free 30-min call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmdResources mentioned:EP175 - What is Payment Posting? EP176 - Insurance Side MistakesEP177 - Patient Payment Errors

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